This promo makes it so obvious that Cam is definitely going to jump off the roof and be successful in killing himself. I’d actually be surprised now if he didn’t die given these dramatic reactions.
If that is indeed the manner of his exit from the series, then he’s almost definitely dead. Eli was walking rather slowly towards the greenhouse, if I saw someone hanging in a greenhouse my first instinct would be to get him down.
I think that if he does hang himself in the greenhouse (likely) then he’s dead long before Eli and Clare find him.
Eli wouldn’t tell Clare not to look if there was even the slightest possibility of helping him. He’d probably be racing for cam while shouting orders at Clare.
I think he will die. Remember the promo for “think you know Maya” she was kissing all over different guys. Basically acting out as a means of dealing with his death perhaps.. Just a thought though.
When? I don’t remember. Unless you count crashing the herse as a suicide attempt. Which it wasn’t. He was doing more for Clare’s attention and not tryin to end his life.
I HAVE A RANDOM THEORY THAT CAM DOESNT DIE.
1.) Cam will try to commit suicide by hanging himself in the Greenhouse and Eclare will find him and Cam will be hospitalized
2.) Degrassi will find out what about attempted suicide and blame Dallas for it (because everyone thinks Dallas is a bully)
3.) Dallas cant handle the blame
4.) DALLAS WILL BE THE ONE TO COMMIT SUICIDE…
….Just think about it….Degrassi wants everyone to focus on Cam…but DALLAS WAS ON THE ROOF TOO….
Yeah he is listed as being in 4 more episodes (after part 2) on IMDB. He could be in a coma and still die. I guess he’s leaving the show if he lives. It would make sense for him to go back home. You never know with Degrassi.
i’m pretty sure Cam is going to die and although I pegged it last season, I really wish they didn’t make it obvious and spoil it so much. The great thing about J.T’s death…well not great, but the impacful thing about his death was the fact that no one saw it coming and it was completely out of left field. I wish I was surprised is all
The thing that is interesting about the end of Bittersweet Symphony Part One is that it relates so much to the ambiguity seen at the end of Time Stands Still Part One. If one remembers, the episode ended with Rick opening the gun case which made the viewer wonder as to whether Rick was going to commit suicide to escape the bullying or go back to Degrassi and kill the ones responsible for the prank. That same thing happens in Bittersweet Symphony where we are left with a “what happens next” situation. We shall wait and see….
If they kill cam, that’s the last straw i wont watch degrassi and i wont think about degrassi. I will just completely erase my memory of degrassi. that will be hard because i watched every single episode. Just why cam? whats the point of viewers crying all night. If they say that they were trying to prevent teen suicide i will drive to Canada and slap them across the face that did not prevent teen suicide if anything they are making me sad and increased the chances.
Well people do act like this all the time to each other. It would be more fake if they never had this in the show. These things do happen in the world, everyday. Kids commit suicide, and it would be stupid of Degrassi to completely ignore this. This show is supposed to be relatable to teenagers. Some teenagers are on the cheerleading team, some get pregnant, some write plays, some worry too much about homework, some get pregnant, and some are depressed. How is it right for a show to be relatable on some aspects of a teenagers life, but not relatable on other serious aspects? Cam is a great character because he is real and he has feelings. He’s broken and you can see it, but people still push him and sometimes that’s the worst thing you can do.
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If Cam dies, I will cry. Episodes this intense make me angry and reminds me of how mean people can be. And the result ultimately leads to tragedies. Dallas and Zig need to pay!
I hope Cam doesn’t die. I actually do really want someone to *succeed* in committing suicide and I thought Cam would be good but I was hoping for LATER ON because Cam is so interesting! I want to see more of him. If he DOES die, that’s just a waste. We didn’t get much of him at all and that’d suck seeing as he’s obviously SO GOOD at acting! It’d be a shame to be rid of him so fast when he’s gotten so little!
Lol..everyone needs to stop with the entire”OMG I WILL NEVER WATCH DEGRASSI AGAIN IF CAM IS DEAD” crap.
You guys sound just as delusional as the El-Clare fans.
If you’ve learned anything from Degrassi throughout the years, you know that they’re known for playing games. Which makes it not surprising that Stefan is bragging on twitter how “OMG SHOCKING” this episode will be.
If Stefan actually has the stones to kill a character off, kudos to them. It’s been a long time coming. But I frankly doubt it due to his past results.
He is getting each and every one of you worked up and is laughing his ass off over it.
Cam is listed as being in a whole bunch of season 12 eps, that have not aired yet. Therefore, Cam does not die. I wonder who will though. If no one dies, I wonder what twist degrassi is gonna throw our way!
What if Cam goes insane and ends up killing someone else? Just saying I didn’t see Jake in either preview. And his behavior to me seems more homicidal than suicidal.
I have noticed tat Cam is listed for a bunch of season 12 episodes, so it’s likely that he won’t die BUT, didn’t anyone else notice that Adam and Jake weren’t in the promo for next week, hmmm, think about that.
He could still be credited as appearing for being in a flashback or dream sequence if he does die. Also, he could survive and this could be teennicks way of making it seem like he dies (since much music’s promo doesn’t really seem like a death happens).
I noticed that in the near ending of the promo, you hear heavy breathing, so perhaps, Cam lives but barely, and Dallas and Zig need to pay for what they did, Dallas yelled so much at Cam, it made him lose it in the classroom, and Zig called him psycho, which made him break up with Maya and to leave her life for good, Zig and Dallas are both full of BS.
i don’t see why people are giving Dallas hate. I get where he coming from. If Cam really wants to quit he should have done that a long time ago (and not because of Maya) instead of the time he recovered from his injury. People were counting on Cam ad Cam was being selfish: for punching Zig, for not trusting Maya, for getting himself suspended when he got a hockey team that is counting on him, and for breaking up with Maya is a text. Cam has problems, but Dallas and everyone else doesn’t know about them so obviously Dallas would assume he is being a dick. Dallas did what most of us would have done in that situation and i believe he wasn’t doing anything wrong or that he is not a bully. I think Cam should really get some help…
I agree. Some of these Cam fan girls want to blame everyone for Cam’s possible suicide (I’m on the fence with that happening). None of the characters knew where Cam’s thoughts were. He was scaring Maya with his aggression over a kiss, when they weren’t even together, and honestly while Zig had an ulterior motive about Cam leaving Maya, it’s also was good advice since his issues likely would just get worse without him seeking help or for someone around to see obvious signs. Instead of finger pointing, some of these fan girls should be hoping Cam lives and gets help.
I wished some of these Cam fan girls would stop acting as if Zig told Cam to go kill himself. I still like Zig. It as harder to like Cam in last night’s episode when he flipped his lid, attacked Zig, and in turn frightened Maya. Zig’s advice was a good one because, despite his ulterior motive, how Cam was behaving he needs to seek help or he’ll just hurt or scare off Maya in the long run.
For once I actually like TeenNick’s promo better than MuchMusic’s. Anyways, I’m really excited for next week’s episode because it looks intense and it’s been way too long since Degrassi has had a really intense episode. It’s also about time that they deal with a suicide and how it impacts everyone in different ways.
However, part of me doubts if Cam will commit suicide in the next episode. I feel like it would be TOO obvious since that’s what the promos are hinting at. While I do think Degrassi needs to deal with a suicide, if it has to be Cam (which seems the most likely because he appears to have a mental illness) I wish they would have waited until later because I feel like we are just finally getting to know him. I thought Cam was great in last night’s episode because we got to see different sides of him, from jealous and unable to control his emotions to being a sweet boyfriend to Maya. I wish we got to see more of his character before he dies (if he does).
Also, I wish they would have delved more into his mental illness that he appears to have. I don’t know much about mental illness but it seems to me he may have some sort of anxiety disorder or something similar. If he does die we may not get a chance to find out what has been making him act this way.
Just my thoughts on everything. I really hope the next episode lives up to all the hype!
Why are they dealing with a suicide so fast? We barely know anything about Cam or what’s really going on with him and they just want to kill him off? It’s so rushed and that’s why I feel it’s so lame and done badly. Hopefully, he doesn’t really kill himself because it would honestly be the worst plot Degrassi has had in years.
Introduce a new character with some issues + In the same season, kill him off? That’s so lazy. Especially considering he only had like 2 main plots (this being the second one). When Rick went with the gun to school, the whole issue was a long time coming from the Terry incidents in season 2 all the way to the episodes leading up to Time Stands Still.
That’s why I would be really disappointed with the writing staff if he’s really dead.
*i hope kary addresses this in his review and doesn’t just feel the hype from these promos/the next episode and how it’s executed*
Guys just because Cam is listed for a bunch more episodes doesn’t mean he’s actually in them. O.o not all 26 characters will be all in the next few episodes as listed lol. There’s gonna be a group of cast members showing (credit only). And honestly Cams just so unstable I don’t mind if he goes. It’s not Dallas’ fault because Cam was honestly just gonna sacrifice their whole season. He deserves to get yelled at. Zig called him a psycho for randomly punching him (though he had it coming). It’s not Dallas and Zigs fault that Cam might kill himself. It’s his for how he handles this
Cam’s plot has been very hard for me to watch. I have been been absolutely depressed since last nights episode and I can’t shake it. I have been diagnosed with clinical depression and I battle my depression every day. It pains me to see this plot, but I commend the writers for doing such a good job with it. They are portraying Cam’s feeling very realistically.
I’m not sure how I will react to next weeks episode. I attempted suicide many years ago. This plot is difficult for me to watch without bringing up those feelings again. Cam was the most relateable character to me because we have similar struggles. I am interested to see how next week will unfold, but I’m not sure I can handle it.
Maybe I’m too invested in this plot. I feel so sad for Cam and Maya. Even Zig and Dallas, because they will most likely take Cam’s death the hardest out of anyone. I’m sure they will feel responsible. Hopefully the writer’s pull this plot off well. It could be one of the strongest storylines in all of Degrassi; TNG history.
I completely echo your sentiments. I suffer from an anxiety disorder and Cam’s storyline has been wracking through my head since the episode last night. I hope you are able to get through next week’s episode. I agree, I think this could be one of the best episodes since the Rick shooting.
I’ve been struggling with depression since a fairly young age so I feel you. The one reason I don’t want Cam to go yet is because he’s so relatable…for the first time in a long time, there’s a character I can connect with. I’m hoping his attempt will be unsuccessful, landing him in the hospital for much of the season, He’ll return, but then eventually leave the show by taking his life.
I have heard rumors that Adam was going to die in Block 12 C since Jordan Todosey was supposedly filming “Life with Derek” again. I can’t really see Adam killing himself. He seemed to be happy towards the end of Block B when his mom agreed to start a dialogue about taking testosterone and him dating Becky. I think if it was Adam that committed suicide , Becky would look more upset than what is showing the promos. I think it is Cam. Not sure how reliable how IMDB.com is but it list that both Jordy and Dylan are in future episodes. Whoever it is that dies, it will definitely affect everyone at Degrassi.
The nice thing about that clip is that it does not spoil the episode at all and really left me satisfied. I like the fact that Degrassi is keeping the ambiguity of Part Two intact.
couldn’t agree more!!! i hate when i know whats going to happen already. Like, whats the point of making us wait a week to watch the whole episode,if they’re just gonna spoil if for us.
As much as I want Cam to live, theres just so much evidence showing he won’t, in the promos for this season, they’re aren’t any parts with Cam past the first episode, so it looks like he’s a goner people, I’m so gonna cry.
The only thing that the Cam-DOES-die theory has going against it is the fact that Degrassi promos are frequently misleading. Everything else however, does seem to support it, especially the fact that 1. there are no Cam scenes apart from those in BSS seen in any other promos, 2. the intensity of the different characters’ reactions, 3. as well as the statement made by several of the actors that 12C will deal with an issue that has not been tackled since the days of DJH/DH. There have been several *attempts* at suicide on Degrassi, but never a successful one.
I feel pretty bad for saying this, but I sort of want Cam to die, because I think it would allow for some very interesting development of the newer cast members (i.e. the niners and Dallas). I’ve been pretty indifferent to Cam myself, but what an impact he’d have on the franchise if he does kill himself!
It could be like Teri or Jacinta. We thought they died but they both just ended up hospitalized. Degrassi has killed off good people before though ( JT), but people that we hate have been killed also ( Rick- shot himself by accident). We don’t know but I think it is death. I still think it should be Zig who is killed.
It won’t be Zig, because he’s been seen in the promos in scenes that are from later episodes. The more I think about it though, the less I think Cam is going to die, now. My guess is that he suffers severe brain damage. Because I don’t think that the writers have the balls to commit to a suicide plot yet, and brain damage as a result of some sort of intense injury is also something that has not been done since the days of DJH/DH.
Yea the more I think on it, I believe Cam suffers from injuries, due to an attempted suicide. I think Eli saves him, in the promo you see Eli kneeling in the hallway, by what looks like either the nurse or main office, maybe he’s being questioned. I’ll admit degrassi promos are purposely always misleading. However, Cam definitely :-( either commits or attempts to commit suicde, hence the text to maya, the red hoodie you see Eli looking at while walking up to the greenhouse. You see fire trucks, which probably means fine thing or someone is high up somewhere.
ELI,CAM…THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER CRAIG,DEGRASSI WRITERS SEEM LIKE THEY’RE UNABLE TO REALIZE THAT. I’VE ALWAYS THOUGHT SUICIDE WAS SELFISH,SO WHETHER HE’S SUCCESSFUL OR UNSUCCESSFUL AT IT,MEH. I WON’T REALLY CARE THAT HE’S OFF THE SHOW BUT DEPENDING ON HOW IT PLAYS OUT,IF IT ACTUALLY DOES IM SURE I MIGHT GET MISTY EYED BECAUSE CAM DOES HAVE OBVIOUS PROBLEMS,BUT STILL…I JUST CAN’T WITH HIM.
If they really wanted to go all out, they could have Simpson flash-back to the time he found Claude’s body in the bathroom in that “very special episode” of Degrassi High…or at least a mention of it would be nice.
Cam hangs himself. From the looks of it, Eli finds him in the greenhouse. I’m so sad, I hate zig & maya. At first I’m like “degrassi won’t go through with it” but they haven’t shown something this shocking, since….well, JT (which I’m still not over). It’s time. Cam had been showing signs, ie. slicing himself with skate blade, drinking milk which he’s allergic to, to get sick, falling off of balcony. I’ve been feeling bad for this kid since day 1, he’s so fragile and sweet. Poor baby should’ve just stayed home with his family.
The only thing I truly appreciate in these promos is how protective of Claire Eli still is, despite the fight state they’re currently in. Unfortunately we can tell by the promos that that is going to go away in a few more episodes…
I’m so sad :(
While I do like the idea of Degrassi finally dealing with the topic of suicide, I do wish that this time around, it’s an unsuccessful attempt. Cam is actually a really relatable character and I want to see more of him before he goes. In my ideal world, Cam tries to kill himself but fails, is in the hospital for a long time, returns later, but does eventually take his life. A lot of suicides are actually second, third, or even fifth tries; I would really like to see the plot of a kid who doesn’t recover.
Cam cant be dead they will play it out as if he try like they did to Darcy and then he will be in the hospital for a while then when he gets out he’ll gets back together with Maya. Dallas and Zig should feel bad because they are the one’s that caused Cam to try and kill himself
I think that cam will commit suicide because both trailers make it obvious. The women in the much trailer is cams mom coming to the school once she hears the news. I think when eli goes to the greenhouse the red sweatshirt is cam who hung himself. Also i think that eli kneels down at the end because he is the one who finds cam. And when Katie says the way your acting is kind of scaring me she is talking to maya in the way that she laughs when talking to zig.
Also i think that at the end when you hear the breathing at the end of the promo you can tell that it is campbell and those are his last breaths. I miss him already :(
Honestly, I’ve known since he jumped off the balcony that Cam is suicidal and will at least try to commit suicide. I think he’ll succeed, still excited to see what happens though.
I don’t think this is what we think it is honestly. I don’t think Cam has been on the show long enough for them to kill him off so fast. Yes, I do think that he tries, but him killing himself is too far fetched this soon. Then again, this is Degrassi.. I hope they don’t do this. Cam is my favorite character.
He hasn’t been on the show long at all, but he came in with a bang. People have been paying a lot more attention to him than they typically do with newcomers.
Just because he doesn’t have a lot of screentime does not mean it’s too soon to kill him off. Just look at rick. He barely had more screentime than Cam has now.
To be honest, I hope they don’t kill him off yet, cause he is by and far the most interesting character on the show atm, but maybe that’s a reason as to why he should die.
Either way, i’m not getting invested in this till friday. I’d love to see another Time Stands Still, but I’m afraid it might just be another “Sav totally gets stabbed in front of the school!”
Well, something BIG is going to happen, I just wonder what it is that’s going to change everything and leave such a big impact that we need an half-hour special so we can process it all.
Do not believe Degrassi wiki, aka FanGirl Central; it’s false because like Wikipedia anyone can edit a page even if said person is not confirmed in the cast. Trust me from looking at the promos, Mr. Saunders will not be returning to Degrassi next season.
If Cam dies I am gonna be pissed he is my favorite character n if he does it is all Zig’s fault I hope he feels guilty…..cuz yeah Cam has problems but Zig just made it worse just becuz he likes Maya and she is with Cam like wtf get over it u dumbass she don’t fucking like you she choose Cam. He only cares about himself n then if u think about it he is also the reason y Maya is gunna end up with tht guy n start drinking n partying n stuff
You fangirls really need to take off your fan goggles and stop hating on Zig. He has been put into a sea of confusion ever since the Zaya kiss in Doll Parts. Plus Campbell was no better bragging to Zig about still having Maya so I’m glad he emotionally beat Campbell down by calling him a psycho because Cam does have problems. Also, if you’re going to make a point, please back it up with an argument that’s non-biased and refrain from using inappropriate language.
Hmmm … Yes Cam has emotional and possibly mental issues, that DOES NOT give anyone (Zig) the right to verbally and mentally abuse him. Lets remember, Cam did nothing to zig , zig kissed his girlfriend, betrayed his own girlfriend who just so happens to be the girl he kissed bestfriend. Despite Cam’s emotional behavior, zig is wrong on so many levels. Cam reacted like any girlfriend or boyfriend would, if someone kissed or is trying to take their significant other, don’t blame Cam for doing what anyone else would in this situation. Even if Cam didn’t have these issues, zig would’ve still done all of this, kissed his girl, etc. you don’t keep picking at a dog and blame him for biting. Depression is a very common illness in high school, and it’s people like zig that pushes these type of teens to Cam’s level of suicidal thoughts/attemps. I’ve been tuned into degrassi since season 1, they’ve always covered known and common issues that pre teen and teens go through every day, his illness doesn’t give people the right to mistreat him. He’s always happy until someone (zig, maya, Dallas) mistreats him, right or wrong?
Well TeamDegrassi you’re wrong “on so many levels”. Maya kissed Zig when her and Cam BROKE UP for the first time. Also, Cam let his jealousy get the best of him and his stability plus it clouded his judgment to the point where he punched Zig. HE HAS PROBLEMS…he’s not the magical boy you fangirls think he is. Zig had every right to say what he said to Cam because you do not punch someone and then brag about it to their face. Plus, just to recall, didn’t Cam lie to Maya about how he broke his arm? So what does that tell you about how Maybell’s relationship stability? That is why I’m glad Zig’s words ate away at Cam. If you something against Zig that’s your business but do not try to pass your “analysis” off as something right.
Matthew lmaooooooooo. First of all I don’t have anything against Zig , he’s a fictional character lol. I have a lot against the type of person that the actor portrays. So, he didn’t kiss maya? Maya initiated the kiss, but he did then kiss her back after she kissed him and started to pursue a relationship with her, no? So, enlighten me what I’m wrong on. Opinions can’t be wrong, they’re opinions. My opinion on the situation is, yes Cam has issues, I’ve never denied that, but it doesn’t make it right for someone to verbally and mentally abuse him, is that not what zig is doing? Him calling him psycho, because of his illness isn’t verbal abuse, or I guess you figure it’s justified because Cam punched him (again which was a reaction to Zig’s wrong doings). If that’s your opinion, lets just say they’re both wrong for their actions. I don’t agree with alot of what Cam did, but he doesn’t bother anybody, he reacts. This isn’t an analysis it’s facts, you don’t pick on and abuse a depressed, suicidal person, or do you think that’s cool? You can “type” sarcastic sentences and say whatever you feel, but keep in mind, so will I. #teamDegrassi lol
@TeamDegrassi – No one knows that Cam is depressed, although Alli could suspect, they all think he’s either a selfish teammate or someone that’s frightening his girlfriend over a kiss that happened months ago when he wasn’t with Maya – the reason where he holds some responsibility for his lack of support. You claim that Zig verbally and mental abused Cam? They were both acting like two prideful guys wanting to one up the other. If any sort of abuse occurred between them I’d have to say he physical abused Zig during that game. That was an unprovoked punch and attack Cam did – again, over something that happened months ago that he refused to let go and acted like a savage and selfish, without regard to his teammates or girlfriend. There’s a right and a wrong way to react to things and having an illness or a disability doesn’t make it okay or acceptable especially when you get physical because your “feelings” are still hurt. Some fan girls just love it when they have this mental illness “cop out” to blame everyone but their precious golden boy, never mind that some of these same girls have no clue the effects these illness have on actual people and wouldn’t be blaming others for an illness no one can control.
@ Aya, Let’s not refer to mental illness as a “cop out” in any context. I do believe there is a difference between reacting badly because you are just a jackass who wants to hurt people and reacting badly because you can’t control your emotions, and there’s a difference between explaining the reasons for someone’s actions and excusing someone’s actions. Just because someone can understand the reasoning behind an action, doesn’t mean they are saying the action is right. That being said, nobody should be accusing Zig of saying anything out of line to Cam. Out of everyone involved, Zig has the most reason to be angry with Cam right now and the least reason to think that he’s depressed. He’s only seen Angry Cam. Zig didn’t say any of that maliciously.
I really don’t see how Cam is being selfish. It’s not selfish to not want to play a sport. Feeling anger after seeing Zig and Maya all buddy buddy after what happened is natural (they were broken up for like a day when that kiss happened, so it’s going to feel like more of a betrayal than if they’d broken up for weeks or months). The way he handles these things is not okay- a lack of coping skills is an aspect of many depressive disorders. It is selfish of Dallas to expect a 15/16 year old boy to put aside all his problems for the good of a team he has no reason to care about because 1) apparently Cam’s future is secure either way and 2) his teammates haven’t been very nice to him, so why should he want to carry them to victory?
Look that is just what I think it is my opinion you don’t have to criticize my comment and im no fangirl how would u react if your favorite character is going to kill themselves boy or girl because they have issues and another character is bringing them down and by the way your reacting im pretty sure you’re fangirling over Zig since your so eager to defend him your acting like he has done nothing wrong but he dissevered getting punched in the face he kissed his girlfriends bestfriend he was trying to get with Maya when he was still with Tori he didn’t even care about how she was going to feel he was just thinking about himself that proves that he is selfish arrogant boy.
So Zig is the root of all evil and other people’s actions are not their own? That’s hilarious. Zig never said for Cam to go kill himself and only sees his actions as being a jerk just like Maya and Dallas.Yes with ulterior motives Zig wants him to let Maya go and quite honestly Cam would’ve just scared Maya off anyhow with his issues that he’s not getting help for.
I think some of the Eli fan girls are latching onto Cam now and want to point fingers at anyone but Cam.
Clearly Maya likes Zig, has liked him since the beginning and it’s obvious to the non bias fan that she has conflicting romantic feelings for both guys, but chose her boyfriend in hopes that he would be more affectionate. Cam isn’t perfect and is selfish, as Dallas pointed out, by letting his team down (first with that planned fall), himself with not seeking out help, and Maya by flying off the handle about a kiss that happened when they broke up and the reasoning behind their breakup was partly his fault.
How is Cam being selfish? His whole team is counting on him that’s a lot of pressure for one person to handle, and you want him to get help hello that takes time if he was ready to get help he would have but he is not ready to tell people about his issues
Ya, I’m rooting for them. I think Ali might be able to help him see things from a different perspective. Turn him into a good, stable boyfriend, and not a player.
Poor Cam. I hope he doesn’t go. I agree, it would be a major milestone for Degrassi, but I don’t want Cam to go honestly. His character is so sweet and sensitive, and and very relatable. I don’t want to blame anyone if he attempts suicide, I just hope he gets therapy or something. Sadly, I just can’t think of any other possible thing that could happen next week other than Cam attempting suicide. Poor kid.
What has me anticipating next week’s episode is the fact that the Eclare storyline is wrapped up as if it had never happened.
In the teennick sneak preview (Link posted in the above comments) one minute, Eli finds Clare and the next they’re all snuggly and cozy. If this follows the same route that most (if not all) of the teennick sneak peaks, then their storyline is wrapped up within minutes of Part 2’s airing.
Hopefully, that means that the Cam storyline is actually traumatic enough so that they have the majority of the episode to focus just on him, and not just a suicide attempt ala Darcy.
Cam is going to die. He will not kill someone because Bianca already killed Anson (out of self-defense, but they did say this never happened in D:TNG/Degrassi). Possibilities for Adam not being in promos is that he’s not graduating this year, so he might not have a major plot. Also, Drew is (supposedly, I think) being held back, which means he probably will not have a major plot that will involve Adam (as in, his family might not be a focus on any plots he’ll have). Finally, why would MuchMusic have a whole 1/2 hour devoted to helping people get through these episodes? It’s probably because they know a lot of people who watch this show can relate to this and they don’t want to be responsible for a bunch of kids killing themselves.
Also, to the Cam fangirls, I have dated someone like Cam. That relationship started out a lot like Camaya and ended up with him telling me I couldn’t have friends or a life, trying to get sexual with me when I wasn’t ready, hurt me multiple times when he got mad at me, and when I broke up with him he threatened suicide. Needless to say, I hate Cam because he reminds me of my ex so much. I don’t understand why you girls like him so much, but he really truly is a psycho. The whole Camaya relationship really hits home and I really wish all you hormonal girls could understand what I went through, but you won’t unless you have gone through it. Believe me, if you knew what happened and how similar it is, you would hate Cam too.
Well he may have a similar personality, and if i were you, I’d probably hate Cam too. But Cam hasn’t pulled anything like that. Like your boyfriend minus the creepy part, you’d gotta love ’em. Anyways, that’s just why I like him. To me, he’s sweet, sensitive, but very troubled, which makes me want to hug him every 5 seconds. He’s no angel, but he’s very sweet indeed.
I understand that Cam hasn’t pulled anything like that, but someone with mental and emotional issues, who is already proving to be a jealous boyfriend, could easily stoop to that level. I will admit, your reasons for liking him were my reasons for liking my ex. Cam may never get to that point, but the high potential based on my experiences make me want to see through his sweetness, but that’s also part of my critical personality.
I think the context of the situation is important though.Cam has thus far not been controlling and isn’t trying to alienate her from all of her friends. He’s mainly concerned about Zig, the guy Maya kissed and who reciprocated and admittingly has feelings for Maya. I think that’s different than baseless jealousy out of a desire to control someone. I think Eli had more similarities with your boyfriend first with the whole Stalker Angel thing, and then again when he was with Imogen and swore that she was cheating on him when there was no reason to think so.It’s only natural that Cam feels some sort of jealousy when another guy is really trying to move in on his girlfriend, a guy that she already ran to when they first broke up for like 3 days and has unresolved feelings for.
Lol that’s true about Eli, although I feel like Cam beating up Zig for something that happened when he (Cam) messed up the relationship is just the start of it all. Not every guy is controlling, but the ones that are each have their own way for going about it. One thing I didn’t mention was my ex said he tried to kill himself 52 times. That sounds a bit more like something Cam would do than Eli, being that Cam is away from home and depressed and using those things to keep Maya around sounds more like Cam than Eli, whose way of controlling is more relatable to his bipolar disorder. Of course, we haven’t seen anything like this from Cam, and we possibly never will, but these are just the small things I feel we could see out of Cam if he doesn’t die.
I think Cam attempts suicide and fails because the breathing at the end of the promo is his (look back at rusty cage pt. 1). Alli also tells Dallas he’ll be ok so if anything the writers will later go into cam’s mental problems. The one thing I’m concerned about is Eli and how this gonna affect him and his bipolar disorder
Ya, I’m concerned for Eli too. I really want Cam to be ok, but if he does attempt suicide, I just wish he could stay. But I’d rather his character alive, happy and gone instead of alive, sad and stay.
If he does really kill himslef, it’ll be Eli and Maya who take it hardest. Zig and Dallas are the only other ones who might take it as hard as them.
It looks like Eli finds him. To anyone, not just bipolar people, it would leave doubts in there mind. “I could have saved him if I was just a few minutes earlier” etc. etc.
Maya really should have talked to someone about cam after the last episode. One minute he’s being adorable and funny and literally the very next time he talks to you he’s breaking up. thats not normal.
Zig and Dallas – they both lost their cool with Cam, but they couldn’t know how close he was to the edge. Nonetheless they’ll probably feel guilty about it.
I think Cam will attempt suicide but fail. At the end of the promo its cam’s breathing(look back at rusty cage pt 2) so if anything cam is alive but with severe injuries that will force him to go home to his family. With that being said I believe eli will be the character to watch who might not make it to graduation. This is gonna be one interesting storyline.
Zig is not the root of all evil, but neither is Cam. Zig just likes Maya and wants to be with her. That’s understandable, I’m sure most people have liked and/or wanted to take someone’s significant other at some point. His reaction to Maya and Cam being together seems normal. I’m not a huge Zig fan, but mostly because he seemed like a selfish boyfriend when he was with Tori. (Making her watch his skate, kissing another girl BEFORE breaking up, not caring about her life, etc.) He shouldn’t be demonized because he kissed a girl he liked (it’s not as if he and Cam were friends) and called her boyfriend one name.
Cam’s mental issues are not a cop out for his behavior. He was wrong for punching Zig. There’s no excuse to put your hands on another person. Although there is no excuse that doesn’t mean there’s no explanation. It’s very hard for a 15/16 year old to analyze their own behavior without bias and realize they need to get help. (It’s even hard for adults.) Especially when you’re not with any of your own family who could spot the changes in your behavior and you him help. (He was probably so happy visiting home over break they couldn’t tell.) He doesn’t understand why he’s feeling how he is and he is just trying to figure out how to feel happy. (Will quitting hockey make him happy? Will keeping Maya make him happy? Will killing or hurting himself end the pain?) Viewers who hate Cam should give him a break. He has a lot of pressure and the only friend we’ve seen him have is Maya. If Zig is able to take her away he has NO ONE. The punch, although completely wrong, was a desperate attempt by emotionally unstable boy to keep his girlfriend. He snapped. The kid has no support system to help him figure out what’s wrong with him. Plus it’s very hard for a boy to admit to emotional issues. (Remember when Dallas chastised him for crying in public? No one would say that to a girl.) Dallas, who hasn’t been very nice to Cam since he arrived, is unknowingly putting so much pressure on him. Imagine knowing that even though you hate an activity and don’t want to do it anymore and feel overwhelming anxiety at the thought of doing it, there is a whole team of people, who make no attempt to befriend you and aren’t even kind to you, telling you that you’re their only hope to ‘make it’. That’s a lot of pressure from people he owes nothing to. Dallas was upset with Cam for punching Zig, not only because of how it would affect the hockey team, but because it hurts his chances of winning the bet against Ali. You can’t call Cam a ‘psycho’ because we don’t know what’s wrong with him and we haven’t seen the extent of his behavior. He has only hurt himself and punched Zig. He’s never hurt Maya physically or pushed her into sexual situations at this point. In fact, he wasn’t affectionate enough for her, hence their short break up.
Although I think his actions towards Cam were wrong, I don’t think Dallas is a ‘bully’ either. He thinks being tough is the way to get through to athletes. He doesn’t realize Cam needs a more gentle approach. He didn’t understand Cam’s emotional problems, no one does at this point. He just sees Cam as a lazy whiney kid who wants to spend more time with his girl, not a depressed kid with severe anxiety who self harms and thinks about ‘going to sleep forever’. Dallas can be abrasive, but he isn’t doing it to hurt anyone, he thinks he’s helping Cam see what’s important.
They’re all human. They make mistakes. Isn’t that why we watch? :)
You basically gave the best analysis of Campbell Saunders at this point in the Degrassi series. I myself loved the scene between Cam and Zig because their rivalry was subtle and the fact that both of them fired pistons at each other was brilliant. Funny how one label can emotionally beat down a person as we saw with Cam.
YES! Everyone must read this amazing comment, so we can all stop arguing and just focus on hoping for the best for this Friday’s episode. I’m sure we’re all stressed enough about it as is, so lets not throw a fight in there too.
We have a character who is clearly suicidal (Cam), who is certain to attempt suicide in the next episode, but some people think that ADAM is going to die? I don’t understand people’s reasoning for this.
I can tell because of the hospital shot. If he was dead he would be in a morgue not a hospital bed. But they sometimes cast and have people in the opening credit after they leave. But how could he return to degrassi it would be so awkward
Ok, that woman isn’t Cam’s mom. If you go back to A Rusty Cage Part 1, Cam talks to his mom on video chat, and that is not his mom. And why would Simpson only talk to Maya and Katie? i wonder if something happened to one or both of they’re parents on their trip.
The woman might be Cam’s hockey mom (I forget the term for it). Simpson would talk to Maya because they were dating and to Katie because their parents probably aren’t home yet, which makes Katie her guardian for the moment.
Not to mention, isn’t Katie still School Prez? Degrassi Student Council already have ungodly amount of power, it’s not hard to imgine that Simpson would want to talk to a student about how the students are coping.
I mean the teachers could try to feel out the students, but at the end of the day, they can’t see whats going on outside of school.
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hink he dies because of the hospital shot. If he hung himself or jumped he would be un a body bag. The dead dont need hospital rooms. But then again can you imagine how it would be if he didnt die. He wouldnt be able to return to degrassi. It would be too strange. Things would neverbe the same. But Zen’s lack of empathy when hes leaning on the lockers is so cruel. I hope he doesnt think Maya would ever want him.
I think they mean the shot of Eli in the hallway at the end. That’s definitely the school though because everyone is carrying a backpack in the background.
It was also mentioned by Stefan that this story will linger through out season 12C. I think its going to effect everyone. I think 4 major characters are going to more affected by it. Dallas & Zig with guilt, Maya maybe in denial and Eli seeing the body may trigger Julia’s death. Grief can make you do things you never thought you would ever do. Maybe Eli does drugs and cheats. Maya is going to start drinking and become promiscuous. I think Maya & Eli are going to push their love ones out of the way. These are just theories that could happen.
I spent a whole night crying at the thought of Cam dying. I personally can definetly understand panic attacks, I get them all the time. Cam is the only character exept for Eli who I’ve really related with. Especially Cam, because he feels like a disappointment to everyone and like he is bad at everything (again I CAN RELATE). All of these people saying Cam is in the wrong or anything bad about him should really read marees comment. It is AMAZING. It describes cam so perfectly I’m stunned. I have a really really bad feeling that he will die but I hope not. I’m hoping day and night because think about what kind of a message that would send to people with problems. It doesn’t have to end in suicide. Sure, It often does but I’ve definetly felt this bad before and I thought about suicide. Did I do it? NO! Because someone told me life is worth fighting for. I love Cam and i never thought I could love a character like I love him. He is the most honest character on Degrassi and him dying would destroy me. I really really hope he doesn’t die…. Anyone have an opinion?
I don’t think he will die. It just seems stupid to bring in a character who is relateable to so many people, barely scratch the surface with his problems, and then kill him off. I feel they can delve so much more into him and do so much more with his character that I doubt that he will die. I’m putting all my money into a suicide attempt that he actually goes through with (unlike Darcy who was talked out of it) but is either saved, or it just puts him into the hospital until he recovers. While he is recovering though, people aren’t sure if he will pull through which leads to it affecting Maya, Zig, Dallas, Alli, and Eli (Alli because she talked to him and tried to help him). I also think this because it just seems weird that Stephen Stohn would talk about a suicide plot on Twitter saying “OMG havent done anything like this in YEARS!!!!” that just seems to glamorize it, at least in my opinion.
It is possible that Cam might commit suicide and succeed… in some cast interviews i watched they said the big plot element of the season was something Degrassi hadn’t done in a long time. back in 1991 they had a character named Claude Tanner and he committed suicide. 22 years is a long time.
Dont think i’m voting for a death, i love cam, but its possible
I dont want Cam to kill himself and I dont want anyone to die!!!!! I love the whole cast!!!!! I doubt Dallas is gonna do it because him and Ali have a relations starting and Ali is up on the roof with him when he is up there.
Ok, i wont get to critical on you because your probably all a bunch of pre teens between the ages of 10-16..
But first off, its a show….. crying yourselves to sleep at night, now thats just silly……
As for saying the character Cam has the tendencies of an abusive man, thats absurd. I myself was in an abusive relationship as well, with all the similarities you had mentioned (Sooyeon). This Cam character is an actual depressed young man, whereas a boyfriend of our experience isn’t depressed they are bipolar or schizophrenic. Cam is hurting, he is not trying to seek others attention or even attempting to ask for it. No one knows anything is really going on other then his anger outburst. Don’t confuse mental illnesses. Cam in nothing like the man you were with, he is showing true teenage confusion and possible signs of being bipolar…
Yup. Yup I am between 10-16. Lol, but I don’t cry myself to sleep about it. I think about it ALOT, and I scream at the TV when the promo comes on, but ya that’s about it.
Let me just mention that my relationship happened when I was 15 and he was either 14 or 15… can’t remember, which made us close to Cam & Maya’s ages.
He also moved a few times like Cam, and his parents ignored him, and his sister hated him. I’m pretty sure he was very depressed or possibly bipolar, and seeing as Cam is for sure depressed (I don’t think he’s quite bipolar since that’s Eli’s mental illness), I can just see how this might go. My ex held on to me so tightly in our relationship, probably because no one showed him that affection in awhile (maybe among other things). If Cam could feel that affection from Maya often enough, he might start to cling on to her too.
Everyone is talking about how Dallas thinks Cam is being selfish, but in all actuality Dallas is the one being selfish… is he not? Telling Cam that if he doesn’t play the seasons over for all of them, isn’t that a bit of an exaggeration? there are more players than just Cam… i play many sports and unless you play golf a sport is a TEAM effort. Its not only Cam who scores the goals and makes the passes.. everyone helps out.
Ya, he kinda is, but the thing is that we can’t really blame him because from Dallas’s point of view, Cam just wants to leave the team basically saying, “My work here is done, I’m about to be in the NHL, now I can leave everyone stranded and relax,” though sadly that’s not it at all, he’s actually a most likely depressed and possibly suicidal 15 year old boy. That’s why I think Dallas will reacts the way he does in the promos, because he feels guilty.
That’s a good point, but Dallas should have taken a hint when he “fell” off the balcony and broke his arm. Dallas had told him directly not to and he did it anyway which should have set off a trigger in Dallas’ head saying “this is a cry for help, help him”
This is purely speculation, but judging from the previews, I think it’s obvious that Cam will commit suicide by hanging himself in the greenhouse. Eli will find his body, which will cause him to have nightmares (explored in Ray of Light, Parts I/II when he plans a getaway with Jake and Moe to take his mind off things). Cam’s death will also have a major impact on Dallas since he will blame himself. The guilt will cause Dallas to contemplate suicide himself by jumping off the roof. He’ll trap himself up on the roof, causing the fire trucks to be called to the scene to get him down. Fiona will try and talk Dallas down from jumping by telling him that things will be ok.
But as everyone is saying why would they kill a character that just got on the show this season…its highly illogical for them to kill off this character. its most likely an attempt… Dallas will feel guilty for landing his most valuable player in the hospital and contemplate suicide. plus teennick previews are highly misleading
I think because they’re having a “MuchTalks” thing after the show pretty much seals the deal that Cam will have died. Do you really think they would do that if it was just an attempted suicide? There have been lots of attempted suicides over the years and they’ve never hyped it up as much as they’ve hyped up this episode. Those tweets from Stefan Brogren that Kary posted awhile back are also clear indication.
I really hope that no one actually dies :\ buuut that probably isn’t the case. I think that if they wanted to throw in a twist and be less obvious they would have jake die. If you watched the promo you can see that 1) claire finds him, and in the last episode they emphasized her feelings for jake in the past 2) they show Katie matlin shocked about it 3) jake doesnt really have a story line anymore.
Just a thought
Cam is the 2nd person in degrassi history to commit suicide. The first person was Claude tanner. Principal Simpson found him when he was a student at degrassi
Cam will always be my favourite character at heart so it’s really sad to have to think that I need to find a new one now. I guess we’ll see what characters season 13 has to bring. :(
I am however very curious about the next episode. Is Eli in a cult? Like what the heck is up with that? And also I think they made a website in memory of Cam. And I wonder what the media’s reaction will be when they find out about Cam’s suicide? They were all up in his face before, so I wonder how they will take the news. And Katie talking to Maya saying, “You can’t replace Cam,” and Maya saying, “Well, why not?” Ugh, I know I’m going to hate this new guy Maya is with just because he’s not Cam. No one can replace Cam. We’ll see.
I’m 35…I have kids. I STILL watch Degrassi. I really loved Cam and I thought that he was a relevant character. I have never been a fan of Maya, but I’m hoping that they use her dry and chalky personality to showcase how different people deal with such a terrible loss as suicide. It can change your life, your whole personality. Suicide doesn’t just end a life, it puts into question the lives of everyone they knew. So many questions. So much sadness. Anger, depression…loneliness, and regret. Eli is already a dark character, but he’s changed so much that he’s lost that edge of being relatable. He kind of pushed on Bi-Polar, anxiety, anger issues, etc. Now, he’s Claire’s little bee-otch. Claire. Ewgh. I miss characters like JT and Spinner…Emma!!! They really got into their story lines. Now I feel like it’s too bouncy. Not enough time to connect with the characters. STILL, I really liked Cam. So sad that he will no longer be on the show. I hope they use him in flashbacks…especially if they can still grow his character. They can do that posthumously, but I doubt it. What a shame to waste such a good character. BUT…I guess that is the whole point. You never know who will go, who will fall to the pressures of life. I just wish they would have shown more that he was thinking on it and at least speaking out that it was a possibility that he would. I’m looking forward to seeing how Dallas is changed. I would like it if they did an episode of a parent dying or a sibling. I know that growing up I didn’t see a lot about that on t.v. and when it happened to me, I had nothing to help me understand it all. Maybe someone with a disabled family member? I will love this show until my kids are out of college!!!
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OMG HE DID DO IT! CAM ACTUALLY DID IT!!! OMG (x infinity)
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i think cam saunders should come back he was only there for a little while come back saunders we miss you
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Yes cam is gonna commit suicide!
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Am I the only one not surprised??. I completely saw it coming. That jump off the balcony in the school only confirmed it. R.I.P Cam.
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This promo makes it so obvious that Cam is definitely going to jump off the roof and be successful in killing himself. I’d actually be surprised now if he didn’t die given these dramatic reactions.
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He hangs himself in the greenhouse – that is what Eli is walking towards.
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If that is indeed the manner of his exit from the series, then he’s almost definitely dead. Eli was walking rather slowly towards the greenhouse, if I saw someone hanging in a greenhouse my first instinct would be to get him down.
I think that if he does hang himself in the greenhouse (likely) then he’s dead long before Eli and Clare find him.
Eli wouldn’t tell Clare not to look if there was even the slightest possibility of helping him. He’d probably be racing for cam while shouting orders at Clare.
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I cried at the promo. I just…Cam is my favorite freshman! No! He can’t die!!! No!!!
*Starts crying again*
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He’s a sophomore though…
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Oh. Whoopsies. Either way!
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LOL #awkward
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hes actualy a juinor
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He’s the only regular sophomore this season.
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cam can’t die its Degrassi, I mean they didn’t show him ther is hope right
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I think he will die. Remember the promo for “think you know Maya” she was kissing all over different guys. Basically acting out as a means of dealing with his death perhaps.. Just a thought though.
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All this time I thought it would be Eli.. Hm. Good twist.
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Eli did try to kill himself before.
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When? I don’t remember. Unless you count crashing the herse as a suicide attempt. Which it wasn’t. He was doing more for Clare’s attention and not tryin to end his life.
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I HAVE A RANDOM THEORY THAT CAM DOESNT DIE.
1.) Cam will try to commit suicide by hanging himself in the Greenhouse and Eclare will find him and Cam will be hospitalized
2.) Degrassi will find out what about attempted suicide and blame Dallas for it (because everyone thinks Dallas is a bully)
3.) Dallas cant handle the blame
4.) DALLAS WILL BE THE ONE TO COMMIT SUICIDE…
….Just think about it….Degrassi wants everyone to focus on Cam…but DALLAS WAS ON THE ROOF TOO….
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That would be a great twist, I like this idea..:D
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I actually never thought of that but that would be crazy intense too. That damn promo got to me a bit, next week is going to suck.
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But he doesn’t commit suicide because he is going to be in the episode with Vanessa Morgan which is weeks from now. Nice attempt though.
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Yeah he is listed as being in 4 more episodes (after part 2) on IMDB. He could be in a coma and still die. I guess he’s leaving the show if he lives. It would make sense for him to go back home. You never know with Degrassi.
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I hope your right.
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Dallas is in later episodes though so it can’t be Dallas to commit suicide :/ That would be a good twist though.
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I agree with you
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That would be an awesome twist, but the fact that Dallas has a plot coming up with him possibly being a baby daddy rules out that possibility
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i’m pretty sure Cam is going to die and although I pegged it last season, I really wish they didn’t make it obvious and spoil it so much. The great thing about J.T’s death…well not great, but the impacful thing about his death was the fact that no one saw it coming and it was completely out of left field. I wish I was surprised is all
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I’ll believe it when I see it.
Until then, it’s just another Degrassi copout to work-up the audience.
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The thing that is interesting about the end of Bittersweet Symphony Part One is that it relates so much to the ambiguity seen at the end of Time Stands Still Part One. If one remembers, the episode ended with Rick opening the gun case which made the viewer wonder as to whether Rick was going to commit suicide to escape the bullying or go back to Degrassi and kill the ones responsible for the prank. That same thing happens in Bittersweet Symphony where we are left with a “what happens next” situation. We shall wait and see….
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The MuchMusic promo video will not play.
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It should be working now!
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If they kill cam, that’s the last straw i wont watch degrassi and i wont think about degrassi. I will just completely erase my memory of degrassi. that will be hard because i watched every single episode. Just why cam? whats the point of viewers crying all night. If they say that they were trying to prevent teen suicide i will drive to Canada and slap them across the face that did not prevent teen suicide if anything they are making me sad and increased the chances.
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good, the show could use less of a fanbase like you.
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Well people do act like this all the time to each other. It would be more fake if they never had this in the show. These things do happen in the world, everyday. Kids commit suicide, and it would be stupid of Degrassi to completely ignore this. This show is supposed to be relatable to teenagers. Some teenagers are on the cheerleading team, some get pregnant, some write plays, some worry too much about homework, some get pregnant, and some are depressed. How is it right for a show to be relatable on some aspects of a teenagers life, but not relatable on other serious aspects? Cam is a great character because he is real and he has feelings. He’s broken and you can see it, but people still push him and sometimes that’s the worst thing you can do.
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If Cam dies, I will cry. Episodes this intense make me angry and reminds me of how mean people can be. And the result ultimately leads to tragedies. Dallas and Zig need to pay!
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I hope Cam doesn’t die. I actually do really want someone to *succeed* in committing suicide and I thought Cam would be good but I was hoping for LATER ON because Cam is so interesting! I want to see more of him. If he DOES die, that’s just a waste. We didn’t get much of him at all and that’d suck seeing as he’s obviously SO GOOD at acting! It’d be a shame to be rid of him so fast when he’s gotten so little!
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Lol..everyone needs to stop with the entire”OMG I WILL NEVER WATCH DEGRASSI AGAIN IF CAM IS DEAD” crap.
You guys sound just as delusional as the El-Clare fans.
If you’ve learned anything from Degrassi throughout the years, you know that they’re known for playing games. Which makes it not surprising that Stefan is bragging on twitter how “OMG SHOCKING” this episode will be.
If Stefan actually has the stones to kill a character off, kudos to them. It’s been a long time coming. But I frankly doubt it due to his past results.
He is getting each and every one of you worked up and is laughing his ass off over it.
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Those promos… Fuck my life.
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****POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT****
So Cam is probably going to hang himself, most likely with the title of MuchTalks special: Hanging by a Moment after BSS pt. 2
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Cam is listed as being in a whole bunch of season 12 eps, that have not aired yet. Therefore, Cam does not die. I wonder who will though. If no one dies, I wonder what twist degrassi is gonna throw our way!
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What if Cam goes insane and ends up killing someone else? Just saying I didn’t see Jake in either preview. And his behavior to me seems more homicidal than suicidal.
However, anything is possible with Degrassi.
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I have noticed tat Cam is listed for a bunch of season 12 episodes, so it’s likely that he won’t die BUT, didn’t anyone else notice that Adam and Jake weren’t in the promo for next week, hmmm, think about that.
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He could still be credited as appearing for being in a flashback or dream sequence if he does die. Also, he could survive and this could be teennicks way of making it seem like he dies (since much music’s promo doesn’t really seem like a death happens).
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I noticed that in the near ending of the promo, you hear heavy breathing, so perhaps, Cam lives but barely, and Dallas and Zig need to pay for what they did, Dallas yelled so much at Cam, it made him lose it in the classroom, and Zig called him psycho, which made him break up with Maya and to leave her life for good, Zig and Dallas are both full of BS.
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i don’t see why people are giving Dallas hate. I get where he coming from. If Cam really wants to quit he should have done that a long time ago (and not because of Maya) instead of the time he recovered from his injury. People were counting on Cam ad Cam was being selfish: for punching Zig, for not trusting Maya, for getting himself suspended when he got a hockey team that is counting on him, and for breaking up with Maya is a text. Cam has problems, but Dallas and everyone else doesn’t know about them so obviously Dallas would assume he is being a dick. Dallas did what most of us would have done in that situation and i believe he wasn’t doing anything wrong or that he is not a bully. I think Cam should really get some help…
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I agree. Some of these Cam fan girls want to blame everyone for Cam’s possible suicide (I’m on the fence with that happening). None of the characters knew where Cam’s thoughts were. He was scaring Maya with his aggression over a kiss, when they weren’t even together, and honestly while Zig had an ulterior motive about Cam leaving Maya, it’s also was good advice since his issues likely would just get worse without him seeking help or for someone around to see obvious signs. Instead of finger pointing, some of these fan girls should be hoping Cam lives and gets help.
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I feel like I’m one of the only people who still like Zig. ><
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Lol trust me, you’re not. He’s easily one of my favorites right now.
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No…. He is too cute to not like!
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I wished some of these Cam fan girls would stop acting as if Zig told Cam to go kill himself. I still like Zig. It as harder to like Cam in last night’s episode when he flipped his lid, attacked Zig, and in turn frightened Maya. Zig’s advice was a good one because, despite his ulterior motive, how Cam was behaving he needs to seek help or he’ll just hurt or scare off Maya in the long run.
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For once I actually like TeenNick’s promo better than MuchMusic’s. Anyways, I’m really excited for next week’s episode because it looks intense and it’s been way too long since Degrassi has had a really intense episode. It’s also about time that they deal with a suicide and how it impacts everyone in different ways.
However, part of me doubts if Cam will commit suicide in the next episode. I feel like it would be TOO obvious since that’s what the promos are hinting at. While I do think Degrassi needs to deal with a suicide, if it has to be Cam (which seems the most likely because he appears to have a mental illness) I wish they would have waited until later because I feel like we are just finally getting to know him. I thought Cam was great in last night’s episode because we got to see different sides of him, from jealous and unable to control his emotions to being a sweet boyfriend to Maya. I wish we got to see more of his character before he dies (if he does).
Also, I wish they would have delved more into his mental illness that he appears to have. I don’t know much about mental illness but it seems to me he may have some sort of anxiety disorder or something similar. If he does die we may not get a chance to find out what has been making him act this way.
Just my thoughts on everything. I really hope the next episode lives up to all the hype!
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THANK YOU!
Why are they dealing with a suicide so fast? We barely know anything about Cam or what’s really going on with him and they just want to kill him off? It’s so rushed and that’s why I feel it’s so lame and done badly. Hopefully, he doesn’t really kill himself because it would honestly be the worst plot Degrassi has had in years.
Introduce a new character with some issues + In the same season, kill him off? That’s so lazy. Especially considering he only had like 2 main plots (this being the second one). When Rick went with the gun to school, the whole issue was a long time coming from the Terry incidents in season 2 all the way to the episodes leading up to Time Stands Still.
That’s why I would be really disappointed with the writing staff if he’s really dead.
*i hope kary addresses this in his review and doesn’t just feel the hype from these promos/the next episode and how it’s executed*
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Guys just because Cam is listed for a bunch more episodes doesn’t mean he’s actually in them. O.o not all 26 characters will be all in the next few episodes as listed lol. There’s gonna be a group of cast members showing (credit only). And honestly Cams just so unstable I don’t mind if he goes. It’s not Dallas’ fault because Cam was honestly just gonna sacrifice their whole season. He deserves to get yelled at. Zig called him a psycho for randomly punching him (though he had it coming). It’s not Dallas and Zigs fault that Cam might kill himself. It’s his for how he handles this
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By the way guys, they’ve posted a picture of Jake in his cap and gown. He’s staying :)
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Cam’s plot has been very hard for me to watch. I have been been absolutely depressed since last nights episode and I can’t shake it. I have been diagnosed with clinical depression and I battle my depression every day. It pains me to see this plot, but I commend the writers for doing such a good job with it. They are portraying Cam’s feeling very realistically.
I’m not sure how I will react to next weeks episode. I attempted suicide many years ago. This plot is difficult for me to watch without bringing up those feelings again. Cam was the most relateable character to me because we have similar struggles. I am interested to see how next week will unfold, but I’m not sure I can handle it.
Maybe I’m too invested in this plot. I feel so sad for Cam and Maya. Even Zig and Dallas, because they will most likely take Cam’s death the hardest out of anyone. I’m sure they will feel responsible. Hopefully the writer’s pull this plot off well. It could be one of the strongest storylines in all of Degrassi; TNG history.
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I completely echo your sentiments. I suffer from an anxiety disorder and Cam’s storyline has been wracking through my head since the episode last night. I hope you are able to get through next week’s episode. I agree, I think this could be one of the best episodes since the Rick shooting.
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I’ve been struggling with depression since a fairly young age so I feel you. The one reason I don’t want Cam to go yet is because he’s so relatable…for the first time in a long time, there’s a character I can connect with. I’m hoping his attempt will be unsuccessful, landing him in the hospital for much of the season, He’ll return, but then eventually leave the show by taking his life.
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I have heard rumors that Adam was going to die in Block 12 C since Jordan Todosey was supposedly filming “Life with Derek” again. I can’t really see Adam killing himself. He seemed to be happy towards the end of Block B when his mom agreed to start a dialogue about taking testosterone and him dating Becky. I think if it was Adam that committed suicide , Becky would look more upset than what is showing the promos. I think it is Cam. Not sure how reliable how IMDB.com is but it list that both Jordy and Dylan are in future episodes. Whoever it is that dies, it will definitely affect everyone at Degrassi.
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have ya’ll seen the new BSS pt sneak peek on teennick.com?
anyway, i won’t spoil anything, but here the link http://www.teennick.com/videos/clip/degrassi-bittersweet-symphony-part-2-clip-1-c4x.html
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The nice thing about that clip is that it does not spoil the episode at all and really left me satisfied. I like the fact that Degrassi is keeping the ambiguity of Part Two intact.
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couldn’t agree more!!! i hate when i know whats going to happen already. Like, whats the point of making us wait a week to watch the whole episode,if they’re just gonna spoil if for us.
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As much as I want Cam to live, theres just so much evidence showing he won’t, in the promos for this season, they’re aren’t any parts with Cam past the first episode, so it looks like he’s a goner people, I’m so gonna cry.
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Me too…
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Part 2 sneak peek is posted on teennick.com
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I think when can sent maya the text that said its over he might’ve meant his life is over
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The only thing that the Cam-DOES-die theory has going against it is the fact that Degrassi promos are frequently misleading. Everything else however, does seem to support it, especially the fact that 1. there are no Cam scenes apart from those in BSS seen in any other promos, 2. the intensity of the different characters’ reactions, 3. as well as the statement made by several of the actors that 12C will deal with an issue that has not been tackled since the days of DJH/DH. There have been several *attempts* at suicide on Degrassi, but never a successful one.
I feel pretty bad for saying this, but I sort of want Cam to die, because I think it would allow for some very interesting development of the newer cast members (i.e. the niners and Dallas). I’ve been pretty indifferent to Cam myself, but what an impact he’d have on the franchise if he does kill himself!
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It could be like Teri or Jacinta. We thought they died but they both just ended up hospitalized. Degrassi has killed off good people before though ( JT), but people that we hate have been killed also ( Rick- shot himself by accident). We don’t know but I think it is death. I still think it should be Zig who is killed.
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It won’t be Zig, because he’s been seen in the promos in scenes that are from later episodes. The more I think about it though, the less I think Cam is going to die, now. My guess is that he suffers severe brain damage. Because I don’t think that the writers have the balls to commit to a suicide plot yet, and brain damage as a result of some sort of intense injury is also something that has not been done since the days of DJH/DH.
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Yea the more I think on it, I believe Cam suffers from injuries, due to an attempted suicide. I think Eli saves him, in the promo you see Eli kneeling in the hallway, by what looks like either the nurse or main office, maybe he’s being questioned. I’ll admit degrassi promos are purposely always misleading. However, Cam definitely :-( either commits or attempts to commit suicde, hence the text to maya, the red hoodie you see Eli looking at while walking up to the greenhouse. You see fire trucks, which probably means fine thing or someone is high up somewhere.
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ELI,CAM…THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER CRAIG,DEGRASSI WRITERS SEEM LIKE THEY’RE UNABLE TO REALIZE THAT. I’VE ALWAYS THOUGHT SUICIDE WAS SELFISH,SO WHETHER HE’S SUCCESSFUL OR UNSUCCESSFUL AT IT,MEH. I WON’T REALLY CARE THAT HE’S OFF THE SHOW BUT DEPENDING ON HOW IT PLAYS OUT,IF IT ACTUALLY DOES IM SURE I MIGHT GET MISTY EYED BECAUSE CAM DOES HAVE OBVIOUS PROBLEMS,BUT STILL…I JUST CAN’T WITH HIM.
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If they really wanted to go all out, they could have Simpson flash-back to the time he found Claude’s body in the bathroom in that “very special episode” of Degrassi High…or at least a mention of it would be nice.
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WHY CAM??? WHY NOW????????
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You know I would be surprised if the promo isn’t misleading! haha
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He’s not going to commit that
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Cam hangs himself. From the looks of it, Eli finds him in the greenhouse. I’m so sad, I hate zig & maya. At first I’m like “degrassi won’t go through with it” but they haven’t shown something this shocking, since….well, JT (which I’m still not over). It’s time. Cam had been showing signs, ie. slicing himself with skate blade, drinking milk which he’s allergic to, to get sick, falling off of balcony. I’ve been feeling bad for this kid since day 1, he’s so fragile and sweet. Poor baby should’ve just stayed home with his family.
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Why can’t zig die. F*cking bastard
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The only thing I truly appreciate in these promos is how protective of Claire Eli still is, despite the fight state they’re currently in. Unfortunately we can tell by the promos that that is going to go away in a few more episodes…
I’m so sad :(
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they made up… it’s in a sneak peek
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While I do like the idea of Degrassi finally dealing with the topic of suicide, I do wish that this time around, it’s an unsuccessful attempt. Cam is actually a really relatable character and I want to see more of him before he goes. In my ideal world, Cam tries to kill himself but fails, is in the hospital for a long time, returns later, but does eventually take his life. A lot of suicides are actually second, third, or even fifth tries; I would really like to see the plot of a kid who doesn’t recover.
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Promos like this are never as they seem. I’d like to see them cover a suicide plot line, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t happen.
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Cam cant be dead they will play it out as if he try like they did to Darcy and then he will be in the hospital for a while then when he gets out he’ll gets back together with Maya. Dallas and Zig should feel bad because they are the one’s that caused Cam to try and kill himself
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I think that cam will commit suicide because both trailers make it obvious. The women in the much trailer is cams mom coming to the school once she hears the news. I think when eli goes to the greenhouse the red sweatshirt is cam who hung himself. Also i think that eli kneels down at the end because he is the one who finds cam. And when Katie says the way your acting is kind of scaring me she is talking to maya in the way that she laughs when talking to zig.
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Also i think that at the end when you hear the breathing at the end of the promo you can tell that it is campbell and those are his last breaths. I miss him already :(
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Honestly, I’ve known since he jumped off the balcony that Cam is suicidal and will at least try to commit suicide. I think he’ll succeed, still excited to see what happens though.
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I don’t think this is what we think it is honestly. I don’t think Cam has been on the show long enough for them to kill him off so fast. Yes, I do think that he tries, but him killing himself is too far fetched this soon. Then again, this is Degrassi.. I hope they don’t do this. Cam is my favorite character.
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“Cam is my favorite character”
Well, thats the thing isn’t it?
He hasn’t been on the show long at all, but he came in with a bang. People have been paying a lot more attention to him than they typically do with newcomers.
Just because he doesn’t have a lot of screentime does not mean it’s too soon to kill him off. Just look at rick. He barely had more screentime than Cam has now.
To be honest, I hope they don’t kill him off yet, cause he is by and far the most interesting character on the show atm, but maybe that’s a reason as to why he should die.
Either way, i’m not getting invested in this till friday. I’d love to see another Time Stands Still, but I’m afraid it might just be another “Sav totally gets stabbed in front of the school!”
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Well, something BIG is going to happen, I just wonder what it is that’s going to change everything and leave such a big impact that we need an half-hour special so we can process it all.
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Guys. Found Great news :D
look at this website
it says something about season 13 and it’s cast
http://degrassi.wikia.com/wiki/Degrassi_(Season_13)
As you can see Cam is still in the cast
:D:D:DD::D
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Do not believe Degrassi wiki, aka FanGirl Central; it’s false because like Wikipedia anyone can edit a page even if said person is not confirmed in the cast. Trust me from looking at the promos, Mr. Saunders will not be returning to Degrassi next season.
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Well… Thats a bummer.. :p
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Don’t write him off just yet. Degrassi promos tend to be misleading, and for good reason. It gets people to watch.
I hope he does kill himself. Not out of any hatred for the character, but because it’d prove that Degrassi still “Goes There”
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I hope he ends up in a coma instead of dying. I just got on the show and then in the season finale he can wake up.
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If Cam dies I am gonna be pissed he is my favorite character n if he does it is all Zig’s fault I hope he feels guilty…..cuz yeah Cam has problems but Zig just made it worse just becuz he likes Maya and she is with Cam like wtf get over it u dumbass she don’t fucking like you she choose Cam. He only cares about himself n then if u think about it he is also the reason y Maya is gunna end up with tht guy n start drinking n partying n stuff
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You fangirls really need to take off your fan goggles and stop hating on Zig. He has been put into a sea of confusion ever since the Zaya kiss in Doll Parts. Plus Campbell was no better bragging to Zig about still having Maya so I’m glad he emotionally beat Campbell down by calling him a psycho because Cam does have problems. Also, if you’re going to make a point, please back it up with an argument that’s non-biased and refrain from using inappropriate language.
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Hmmm … Yes Cam has emotional and possibly mental issues, that DOES NOT give anyone (Zig) the right to verbally and mentally abuse him. Lets remember, Cam did nothing to zig , zig kissed his girlfriend, betrayed his own girlfriend who just so happens to be the girl he kissed bestfriend. Despite Cam’s emotional behavior, zig is wrong on so many levels. Cam reacted like any girlfriend or boyfriend would, if someone kissed or is trying to take their significant other, don’t blame Cam for doing what anyone else would in this situation. Even if Cam didn’t have these issues, zig would’ve still done all of this, kissed his girl, etc. you don’t keep picking at a dog and blame him for biting. Depression is a very common illness in high school, and it’s people like zig that pushes these type of teens to Cam’s level of suicidal thoughts/attemps. I’ve been tuned into degrassi since season 1, they’ve always covered known and common issues that pre teen and teens go through every day, his illness doesn’t give people the right to mistreat him. He’s always happy until someone (zig, maya, Dallas) mistreats him, right or wrong?
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Well TeamDegrassi you’re wrong “on so many levels”. Maya kissed Zig when her and Cam BROKE UP for the first time. Also, Cam let his jealousy get the best of him and his stability plus it clouded his judgment to the point where he punched Zig. HE HAS PROBLEMS…he’s not the magical boy you fangirls think he is. Zig had every right to say what he said to Cam because you do not punch someone and then brag about it to their face. Plus, just to recall, didn’t Cam lie to Maya about how he broke his arm? So what does that tell you about how Maybell’s relationship stability? That is why I’m glad Zig’s words ate away at Cam. If you something against Zig that’s your business but do not try to pass your “analysis” off as something right.
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Matthew lmaooooooooo. First of all I don’t have anything against Zig , he’s a fictional character lol. I have a lot against the type of person that the actor portrays. So, he didn’t kiss maya? Maya initiated the kiss, but he did then kiss her back after she kissed him and started to pursue a relationship with her, no? So, enlighten me what I’m wrong on. Opinions can’t be wrong, they’re opinions. My opinion on the situation is, yes Cam has issues, I’ve never denied that, but it doesn’t make it right for someone to verbally and mentally abuse him, is that not what zig is doing? Him calling him psycho, because of his illness isn’t verbal abuse, or I guess you figure it’s justified because Cam punched him (again which was a reaction to Zig’s wrong doings). If that’s your opinion, lets just say they’re both wrong for their actions. I don’t agree with alot of what Cam did, but he doesn’t bother anybody, he reacts. This isn’t an analysis it’s facts, you don’t pick on and abuse a depressed, suicidal person, or do you think that’s cool? You can “type” sarcastic sentences and say whatever you feel, but keep in mind, so will I. #teamDegrassi lol
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@TeamDegrassi – No one knows that Cam is depressed, although Alli could suspect, they all think he’s either a selfish teammate or someone that’s frightening his girlfriend over a kiss that happened months ago when he wasn’t with Maya – the reason where he holds some responsibility for his lack of support. You claim that Zig verbally and mental abused Cam? They were both acting like two prideful guys wanting to one up the other. If any sort of abuse occurred between them I’d have to say he physical abused Zig during that game. That was an unprovoked punch and attack Cam did – again, over something that happened months ago that he refused to let go and acted like a savage and selfish, without regard to his teammates or girlfriend. There’s a right and a wrong way to react to things and having an illness or a disability doesn’t make it okay or acceptable especially when you get physical because your “feelings” are still hurt. Some fan girls just love it when they have this mental illness “cop out” to blame everyone but their precious golden boy, never mind that some of these same girls have no clue the effects these illness have on actual people and wouldn’t be blaming others for an illness no one can control.
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@ Aya, Let’s not refer to mental illness as a “cop out” in any context. I do believe there is a difference between reacting badly because you are just a jackass who wants to hurt people and reacting badly because you can’t control your emotions, and there’s a difference between explaining the reasons for someone’s actions and excusing someone’s actions. Just because someone can understand the reasoning behind an action, doesn’t mean they are saying the action is right. That being said, nobody should be accusing Zig of saying anything out of line to Cam. Out of everyone involved, Zig has the most reason to be angry with Cam right now and the least reason to think that he’s depressed. He’s only seen Angry Cam. Zig didn’t say any of that maliciously.
I really don’t see how Cam is being selfish. It’s not selfish to not want to play a sport. Feeling anger after seeing Zig and Maya all buddy buddy after what happened is natural (they were broken up for like a day when that kiss happened, so it’s going to feel like more of a betrayal than if they’d broken up for weeks or months). The way he handles these things is not okay- a lack of coping skills is an aspect of many depressive disorders. It is selfish of Dallas to expect a 15/16 year old boy to put aside all his problems for the good of a team he has no reason to care about because 1) apparently Cam’s future is secure either way and 2) his teammates haven’t been very nice to him, so why should he want to carry them to victory?
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Look that is just what I think it is my opinion you don’t have to criticize my comment and im no fangirl how would u react if your favorite character is going to kill themselves boy or girl because they have issues and another character is bringing them down and by the way your reacting im pretty sure you’re fangirling over Zig since your so eager to defend him your acting like he has done nothing wrong but he dissevered getting punched in the face he kissed his girlfriends bestfriend he was trying to get with Maya when he was still with Tori he didn’t even care about how she was going to feel he was just thinking about himself that proves that he is selfish arrogant boy.
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So Zig is the root of all evil and other people’s actions are not their own? That’s hilarious. Zig never said for Cam to go kill himself and only sees his actions as being a jerk just like Maya and Dallas.Yes with ulterior motives Zig wants him to let Maya go and quite honestly Cam would’ve just scared Maya off anyhow with his issues that he’s not getting help for.
I think some of the Eli fan girls are latching onto Cam now and want to point fingers at anyone but Cam.
Clearly Maya likes Zig, has liked him since the beginning and it’s obvious to the non bias fan that she has conflicting romantic feelings for both guys, but chose her boyfriend in hopes that he would be more affectionate. Cam isn’t perfect and is selfish, as Dallas pointed out, by letting his team down (first with that planned fall), himself with not seeking out help, and Maya by flying off the handle about a kiss that happened when they broke up and the reasoning behind their breakup was partly his fault.
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How is Cam being selfish? His whole team is counting on him that’s a lot of pressure for one person to handle, and you want him to get help hello that takes time if he was ready to get help he would have but he is not ready to tell people about his issues
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I have a hunch that the one who is going to die is going to be adam… It just seems to obvious to kill cam. There has to be a twist
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I was thinking that too. I think they maybe 1 suicide attempt and fatal accident in the greenhouse.
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*yawns* Im moving on to another note, anybody else rooting for Dallas and Ali ?! I sure am. I wish she just find true love & stick with it.
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Ya, I’m rooting for them. I think Ali might be able to help him see things from a different perspective. Turn him into a good, stable boyfriend, and not a player.
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They’re actually my favorite (potential) couple, I really like their chemistry together and I think (and hope) they do end up together.
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Poor Cam. I hope he doesn’t go. I agree, it would be a major milestone for Degrassi, but I don’t want Cam to go honestly. His character is so sweet and sensitive, and and very relatable. I don’t want to blame anyone if he attempts suicide, I just hope he gets therapy or something. Sadly, I just can’t think of any other possible thing that could happen next week other than Cam attempting suicide. Poor kid.
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*POTENTIAL SPOILERS*
What has me anticipating next week’s episode is the fact that the Eclare storyline is wrapped up as if it had never happened.
In the teennick sneak preview (Link posted in the above comments) one minute, Eli finds Clare and the next they’re all snuggly and cozy. If this follows the same route that most (if not all) of the teennick sneak peaks, then their storyline is wrapped up within minutes of Part 2’s airing.
Hopefully, that means that the Cam storyline is actually traumatic enough so that they have the majority of the episode to focus just on him, and not just a suicide attempt ala Darcy.
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Wait… And how is this all going to happen in 30 minutes???
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Cam is going to die. He will not kill someone because Bianca already killed Anson (out of self-defense, but they did say this never happened in D:TNG/Degrassi). Possibilities for Adam not being in promos is that he’s not graduating this year, so he might not have a major plot. Also, Drew is (supposedly, I think) being held back, which means he probably will not have a major plot that will involve Adam (as in, his family might not be a focus on any plots he’ll have). Finally, why would MuchMusic have a whole 1/2 hour devoted to helping people get through these episodes? It’s probably because they know a lot of people who watch this show can relate to this and they don’t want to be responsible for a bunch of kids killing themselves.
Also, to the Cam fangirls, I have dated someone like Cam. That relationship started out a lot like Camaya and ended up with him telling me I couldn’t have friends or a life, trying to get sexual with me when I wasn’t ready, hurt me multiple times when he got mad at me, and when I broke up with him he threatened suicide. Needless to say, I hate Cam because he reminds me of my ex so much. I don’t understand why you girls like him so much, but he really truly is a psycho. The whole Camaya relationship really hits home and I really wish all you hormonal girls could understand what I went through, but you won’t unless you have gone through it. Believe me, if you knew what happened and how similar it is, you would hate Cam too.
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Well he may have a similar personality, and if i were you, I’d probably hate Cam too. But Cam hasn’t pulled anything like that. Like your boyfriend minus the creepy part, you’d gotta love ’em. Anyways, that’s just why I like him. To me, he’s sweet, sensitive, but very troubled, which makes me want to hug him every 5 seconds. He’s no angel, but he’s very sweet indeed.
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I understand that Cam hasn’t pulled anything like that, but someone with mental and emotional issues, who is already proving to be a jealous boyfriend, could easily stoop to that level. I will admit, your reasons for liking him were my reasons for liking my ex. Cam may never get to that point, but the high potential based on my experiences make me want to see through his sweetness, but that’s also part of my critical personality.
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I think the context of the situation is important though.Cam has thus far not been controlling and isn’t trying to alienate her from all of her friends. He’s mainly concerned about Zig, the guy Maya kissed and who reciprocated and admittingly has feelings for Maya. I think that’s different than baseless jealousy out of a desire to control someone. I think Eli had more similarities with your boyfriend first with the whole Stalker Angel thing, and then again when he was with Imogen and swore that she was cheating on him when there was no reason to think so.It’s only natural that Cam feels some sort of jealousy when another guy is really trying to move in on his girlfriend, a guy that she already ran to when they first broke up for like 3 days and has unresolved feelings for.
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Lol that’s true about Eli, although I feel like Cam beating up Zig for something that happened when he (Cam) messed up the relationship is just the start of it all. Not every guy is controlling, but the ones that are each have their own way for going about it. One thing I didn’t mention was my ex said he tried to kill himself 52 times. That sounds a bit more like something Cam would do than Eli, being that Cam is away from home and depressed and using those things to keep Maya around sounds more like Cam than Eli, whose way of controlling is more relatable to his bipolar disorder. Of course, we haven’t seen anything like this from Cam, and we possibly never will, but these are just the small things I feel we could see out of Cam if he doesn’t die.
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Ya I totally get that.
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I think Cam attempts suicide and fails because the breathing at the end of the promo is his (look back at rusty cage pt. 1). Alli also tells Dallas he’ll be ok so if anything the writers will later go into cam’s mental problems. The one thing I’m concerned about is Eli and how this gonna affect him and his bipolar disorder
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Ya, I’m concerned for Eli too. I really want Cam to be ok, but if he does attempt suicide, I just wish he could stay. But I’d rather his character alive, happy and gone instead of alive, sad and stay.
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If he does really kill himslef, it’ll be Eli and Maya who take it hardest. Zig and Dallas are the only other ones who might take it as hard as them.
It looks like Eli finds him. To anyone, not just bipolar people, it would leave doubts in there mind. “I could have saved him if I was just a few minutes earlier” etc. etc.
Maya really should have talked to someone about cam after the last episode. One minute he’s being adorable and funny and literally the very next time he talks to you he’s breaking up. thats not normal.
Zig and Dallas – they both lost their cool with Cam, but they couldn’t know how close he was to the edge. Nonetheless they’ll probably feel guilty about it.
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I think Cam will attempt suicide but fail. At the end of the promo its cam’s breathing(look back at rusty cage pt 2) so if anything cam is alive but with severe injuries that will force him to go home to his family. With that being said I believe eli will be the character to watch who might not make it to graduation. This is gonna be one interesting storyline.
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Zig is not the root of all evil, but neither is Cam. Zig just likes Maya and wants to be with her. That’s understandable, I’m sure most people have liked and/or wanted to take someone’s significant other at some point. His reaction to Maya and Cam being together seems normal. I’m not a huge Zig fan, but mostly because he seemed like a selfish boyfriend when he was with Tori. (Making her watch his skate, kissing another girl BEFORE breaking up, not caring about her life, etc.) He shouldn’t be demonized because he kissed a girl he liked (it’s not as if he and Cam were friends) and called her boyfriend one name.
Cam’s mental issues are not a cop out for his behavior. He was wrong for punching Zig. There’s no excuse to put your hands on another person. Although there is no excuse that doesn’t mean there’s no explanation. It’s very hard for a 15/16 year old to analyze their own behavior without bias and realize they need to get help. (It’s even hard for adults.) Especially when you’re not with any of your own family who could spot the changes in your behavior and you him help. (He was probably so happy visiting home over break they couldn’t tell.) He doesn’t understand why he’s feeling how he is and he is just trying to figure out how to feel happy. (Will quitting hockey make him happy? Will keeping Maya make him happy? Will killing or hurting himself end the pain?) Viewers who hate Cam should give him a break. He has a lot of pressure and the only friend we’ve seen him have is Maya. If Zig is able to take her away he has NO ONE. The punch, although completely wrong, was a desperate attempt by emotionally unstable boy to keep his girlfriend. He snapped. The kid has no support system to help him figure out what’s wrong with him. Plus it’s very hard for a boy to admit to emotional issues. (Remember when Dallas chastised him for crying in public? No one would say that to a girl.) Dallas, who hasn’t been very nice to Cam since he arrived, is unknowingly putting so much pressure on him. Imagine knowing that even though you hate an activity and don’t want to do it anymore and feel overwhelming anxiety at the thought of doing it, there is a whole team of people, who make no attempt to befriend you and aren’t even kind to you, telling you that you’re their only hope to ‘make it’. That’s a lot of pressure from people he owes nothing to. Dallas was upset with Cam for punching Zig, not only because of how it would affect the hockey team, but because it hurts his chances of winning the bet against Ali. You can’t call Cam a ‘psycho’ because we don’t know what’s wrong with him and we haven’t seen the extent of his behavior. He has only hurt himself and punched Zig. He’s never hurt Maya physically or pushed her into sexual situations at this point. In fact, he wasn’t affectionate enough for her, hence their short break up.
Although I think his actions towards Cam were wrong, I don’t think Dallas is a ‘bully’ either. He thinks being tough is the way to get through to athletes. He doesn’t realize Cam needs a more gentle approach. He didn’t understand Cam’s emotional problems, no one does at this point. He just sees Cam as a lazy whiney kid who wants to spend more time with his girl, not a depressed kid with severe anxiety who self harms and thinks about ‘going to sleep forever’. Dallas can be abrasive, but he isn’t doing it to hurt anyone, he thinks he’s helping Cam see what’s important.
They’re all human. They make mistakes. Isn’t that why we watch? :)
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You basically gave the best analysis of Campbell Saunders at this point in the Degrassi series. I myself loved the scene between Cam and Zig because their rivalry was subtle and the fact that both of them fired pistons at each other was brilliant. Funny how one label can emotionally beat down a person as we saw with Cam.
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YES! Everyone must read this amazing comment, so we can all stop arguing and just focus on hoping for the best for this Friday’s episode. I’m sure we’re all stressed enough about it as is, so lets not throw a fight in there too.
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^this was the perfect example of a well-crafted, non-biased analysis. I completely agree with everything in your post, maree.
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Cam is going to push jake, so Dallas is blaming himself
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We have a character who is clearly suicidal (Cam), who is certain to attempt suicide in the next episode, but some people think that ADAM is going to die? I don’t understand people’s reasoning for this.
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He lives, he’s already cast for season 13
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Did you gather that information from Degrassi wiki? -.-
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I can tell because of the hospital shot. If he was dead he would be in a morgue not a hospital bed. But they sometimes cast and have people in the opening credit after they leave. But how could he return to degrassi it would be so awkward
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Ok, that woman isn’t Cam’s mom. If you go back to A Rusty Cage Part 1, Cam talks to his mom on video chat, and that is not his mom. And why would Simpson only talk to Maya and Katie? i wonder if something happened to one or both of they’re parents on their trip.
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The woman might be Cam’s hockey mom (I forget the term for it). Simpson would talk to Maya because they were dating and to Katie because their parents probably aren’t home yet, which makes Katie her guardian for the moment.
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Not to mention, isn’t Katie still School Prez? Degrassi Student Council already have ungodly amount of power, it’s not hard to imgine that Simpson would want to talk to a student about how the students are coping.
I mean the teachers could try to feel out the students, but at the end of the day, they can’t see whats going on outside of school.
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That lady is the French Teacher that I believe Clare finds.
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hink he dies because of the hospital shot. If he hung himself or jumped he would be un a body bag. The dead dont need hospital rooms. But then again can you imagine how it would be if he didnt die. He wouldnt be able to return to degrassi. It would be too strange. Things would neverbe the same. But Zen’s lack of empathy when hes leaning on the lockers is so cruel. I hope he doesnt think Maya would ever want him.
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Hospital shot?
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I think they mean the shot of Eli in the hallway at the end. That’s definitely the school though because everyone is carrying a backpack in the background.
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It was also mentioned by Stefan that this story will linger through out season 12C. I think its going to effect everyone. I think 4 major characters are going to more affected by it. Dallas & Zig with guilt, Maya maybe in denial and Eli seeing the body may trigger Julia’s death. Grief can make you do things you never thought you would ever do. Maybe Eli does drugs and cheats. Maya is going to start drinking and become promiscuous. I think Maya & Eli are going to push their love ones out of the way. These are just theories that could happen.
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I spent a whole night crying at the thought of Cam dying. I personally can definetly understand panic attacks, I get them all the time. Cam is the only character exept for Eli who I’ve really related with. Especially Cam, because he feels like a disappointment to everyone and like he is bad at everything (again I CAN RELATE). All of these people saying Cam is in the wrong or anything bad about him should really read marees comment. It is AMAZING. It describes cam so perfectly I’m stunned. I have a really really bad feeling that he will die but I hope not. I’m hoping day and night because think about what kind of a message that would send to people with problems. It doesn’t have to end in suicide. Sure, It often does but I’ve definetly felt this bad before and I thought about suicide. Did I do it? NO! Because someone told me life is worth fighting for. I love Cam and i never thought I could love a character like I love him. He is the most honest character on Degrassi and him dying would destroy me. I really really hope he doesn’t die…. Anyone have an opinion?
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I don’t think he will die. It just seems stupid to bring in a character who is relateable to so many people, barely scratch the surface with his problems, and then kill him off. I feel they can delve so much more into him and do so much more with his character that I doubt that he will die. I’m putting all my money into a suicide attempt that he actually goes through with (unlike Darcy who was talked out of it) but is either saved, or it just puts him into the hospital until he recovers. While he is recovering though, people aren’t sure if he will pull through which leads to it affecting Maya, Zig, Dallas, Alli, and Eli (Alli because she talked to him and tried to help him). I also think this because it just seems weird that Stephen Stohn would talk about a suicide plot on Twitter saying “OMG havent done anything like this in YEARS!!!!” that just seems to glamorize it, at least in my opinion.
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It is possible that Cam might commit suicide and succeed… in some cast interviews i watched they said the big plot element of the season was something Degrassi hadn’t done in a long time. back in 1991 they had a character named Claude Tanner and he committed suicide. 22 years is a long time.
Dont think i’m voting for a death, i love cam, but its possible
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I dont want Cam to kill himself and I dont want anyone to die!!!!! I love the whole cast!!!!! I doubt Dallas is gonna do it because him and Ali have a relations starting and Ali is up on the roof with him when he is up there.
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Ya, no one deserves to die!
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I mean FIONA is on the roof with Dallas
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What interviews did the cast say that this episode has something that hasnt happened in a while?
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The interview was with Luke, Munro and Cristine on ClevverTV Its on YouTube. This interview was done when they went to the Emmy’s
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Ok, i wont get to critical on you because your probably all a bunch of pre teens between the ages of 10-16..
But first off, its a show….. crying yourselves to sleep at night, now thats just silly……
As for saying the character Cam has the tendencies of an abusive man, thats absurd. I myself was in an abusive relationship as well, with all the similarities you had mentioned (Sooyeon). This Cam character is an actual depressed young man, whereas a boyfriend of our experience isn’t depressed they are bipolar or schizophrenic. Cam is hurting, he is not trying to seek others attention or even attempting to ask for it. No one knows anything is really going on other then his anger outburst. Don’t confuse mental illnesses. Cam in nothing like the man you were with, he is showing true teenage confusion and possible signs of being bipolar…
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Yup. Yup I am between 10-16. Lol, but I don’t cry myself to sleep about it. I think about it ALOT, and I scream at the TV when the promo comes on, but ya that’s about it.
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Let me just mention that my relationship happened when I was 15 and he was either 14 or 15… can’t remember, which made us close to Cam & Maya’s ages.
He also moved a few times like Cam, and his parents ignored him, and his sister hated him. I’m pretty sure he was very depressed or possibly bipolar, and seeing as Cam is for sure depressed (I don’t think he’s quite bipolar since that’s Eli’s mental illness), I can just see how this might go. My ex held on to me so tightly in our relationship, probably because no one showed him that affection in awhile (maybe among other things). If Cam could feel that affection from Maya often enough, he might start to cling on to her too.
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Everyone is talking about how Dallas thinks Cam is being selfish, but in all actuality Dallas is the one being selfish… is he not? Telling Cam that if he doesn’t play the seasons over for all of them, isn’t that a bit of an exaggeration? there are more players than just Cam… i play many sports and unless you play golf a sport is a TEAM effort. Its not only Cam who scores the goals and makes the passes.. everyone helps out.
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Ya, he kinda is, but the thing is that we can’t really blame him because from Dallas’s point of view, Cam just wants to leave the team basically saying, “My work here is done, I’m about to be in the NHL, now I can leave everyone stranded and relax,” though sadly that’s not it at all, he’s actually a most likely depressed and possibly suicidal 15 year old boy. That’s why I think Dallas will reacts the way he does in the promos, because he feels guilty.
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That’s a good point, but Dallas should have taken a hint when he “fell” off the balcony and broke his arm. Dallas had told him directly not to and he did it anyway which should have set off a trigger in Dallas’ head saying “this is a cry for help, help him”
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@Albertusgirl44
That’s true. I wouldn’t have bought the “fell” off the balcony story.
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This is purely speculation, but judging from the previews, I think it’s obvious that Cam will commit suicide by hanging himself in the greenhouse. Eli will find his body, which will cause him to have nightmares (explored in Ray of Light, Parts I/II when he plans a getaway with Jake and Moe to take his mind off things). Cam’s death will also have a major impact on Dallas since he will blame himself. The guilt will cause Dallas to contemplate suicide himself by jumping off the roof. He’ll trap himself up on the roof, causing the fire trucks to be called to the scene to get him down. Fiona will try and talk Dallas down from jumping by telling him that things will be ok.
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But as everyone is saying why would they kill a character that just got on the show this season…its highly illogical for them to kill off this character. its most likely an attempt… Dallas will feel guilty for landing his most valuable player in the hospital and contemplate suicide. plus teennick previews are highly misleading
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I think because they’re having a “MuchTalks” thing after the show pretty much seals the deal that Cam will have died. Do you really think they would do that if it was just an attempted suicide? There have been lots of attempted suicides over the years and they’ve never hyped it up as much as they’ve hyped up this episode. Those tweets from Stefan Brogren that Kary posted awhile back are also clear indication.
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All our questions will be answered tomorrow guys! Are you ready? I’m not!!!!
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Less than 5 hours… :(
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I really hope that no one actually dies :\ buuut that probably isn’t the case. I think that if they wanted to throw in a twist and be less obvious they would have jake die. If you watched the promo you can see that 1) claire finds him, and in the last episode they emphasized her feelings for jake in the past 2) they show Katie matlin shocked about it 3) jake doesnt really have a story line anymore.
Just a thought
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1 hour!!! i’m excited/scared! anybody else?
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HE’S DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’M CRYING SO HARD HOW COULD THEY DO THIS??????????
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He cant die he was so nice and cute! I loved him so much
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Cam is the 2nd person in degrassi history to commit suicide. The first person was Claude tanner. Principal Simpson found him when he was a student at degrassi
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Cam will always be my favourite character at heart so it’s really sad to have to think that I need to find a new one now. I guess we’ll see what characters season 13 has to bring. :(
I am however very curious about the next episode. Is Eli in a cult? Like what the heck is up with that? And also I think they made a website in memory of Cam. And I wonder what the media’s reaction will be when they find out about Cam’s suicide? They were all up in his face before, so I wonder how they will take the news. And Katie talking to Maya saying, “You can’t replace Cam,” and Maya saying, “Well, why not?” Ugh, I know I’m going to hate this new guy Maya is with just because he’s not Cam. No one can replace Cam. We’ll see.
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Rest In Peace Cam My Favorite Guy WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYUYY?????????????????????????
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I’m 35…I have kids. I STILL watch Degrassi. I really loved Cam and I thought that he was a relevant character. I have never been a fan of Maya, but I’m hoping that they use her dry and chalky personality to showcase how different people deal with such a terrible loss as suicide. It can change your life, your whole personality. Suicide doesn’t just end a life, it puts into question the lives of everyone they knew. So many questions. So much sadness. Anger, depression…loneliness, and regret. Eli is already a dark character, but he’s changed so much that he’s lost that edge of being relatable. He kind of pushed on Bi-Polar, anxiety, anger issues, etc. Now, he’s Claire’s little bee-otch. Claire. Ewgh. I miss characters like JT and Spinner…Emma!!! They really got into their story lines. Now I feel like it’s too bouncy. Not enough time to connect with the characters. STILL, I really liked Cam. So sad that he will no longer be on the show. I hope they use him in flashbacks…especially if they can still grow his character. They can do that posthumously, but I doubt it. What a shame to waste such a good character. BUT…I guess that is the whole point. You never know who will go, who will fall to the pressures of life. I just wish they would have shown more that he was thinking on it and at least speaking out that it was a possibility that he would. I’m looking forward to seeing how Dallas is changed. I would like it if they did an episode of a parent dying or a sibling. I know that growing up I didn’t see a lot about that on t.v. and when it happened to me, I had nothing to help me understand it all. Maybe someone with a disabled family member? I will love this show until my kids are out of college!!!
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I can’t believe I stopped watching that session.im gonna start watching the new session
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OMG
drew gets clear pregnant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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