"Aww man they put me in an EClare episode? Fans won't even know I'm here."
Use this post to discuss tonight’s anticipated EClare episode Jesus, Etc. Pt 1.
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Also, check out some of the latest Degrassi news:
Ology’s interview with Munro Chambers
TeenNick’s interview with Melinda Shankar
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DRAKE NOMINATED FOR JUNO AWARD
Drake is one of the nominees in the Fan Choice category at the Juno Awards…that means if you want him to win you’ve gotta vote!! CLICK HERE to vote for Drizzy!
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SHANNON KOOK CHUN IN CAR ACCIDENT
Shannon tweeted last night that he was in an accident…thankfully he wasn’t seriously injured.
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Degrassi Tabloid Debut
From the creators of DegrassiBlog.com (who obviously have way too much time on their hands…wait, why am I saying “we” when we all know it’s just me?) comes DEGRASSI TABLOID, an over-the-top Degrassi gossip site with the motto “Why wait for Degrassi news when you can just make it up?”
Some of the top headlines from Degrassi Tabloid this week:
LEAKED DEGRASSI MINI “UNSTOPPABLE” INFECTS COMPUTERS WITH VIRUS
Degrassi to Release “Hey Sam!” Mobile App
Kary's Degrassi Blog 
WOOO!!! SO EXCITED IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EPIDODE SINCE THE COMING IN 2011 PROMO!!!!
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i remember reading the review for All Falls Down and the mentioning of how clare was telling eli at the end that if his actions were going to keep cause a whole lotta crap and not getting revenge, she didn’t think she would be with him. then i saw the muchmusic promo, with him going “BACK OFF!” shoving fitz. eli is likeable with his humor and playful side, but his switch to angry, vengeful, and what appeared to be clingy side may turn old if it progresses later on (4/22 anybody?), like the Riley-schism before he came out. But I may be wrong after tonight. We’ll see. Keep up the great reviews and newsfeeds Kary!
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i think fitz is the one who dies
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Yeah thats what I think too
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I cracked up when Fitz said he said “I found Jesus”
And Sav sucks at everything
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Fitz has become Eddie Brock. awesome. loving this episode.
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UMMMM….WAS IT JUST ME,OR WAS THE PROMO BLACKED OUT WITH AUDIO ONLY?
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it was just you. its okay. not much went down. try youtube?
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The promo for next week didn’t air properly Arrghhh!!!
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Ughh I couldn’t see it either
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u guys 2?? I thought it was just me I was so fuckin pissed!! I only heard the audio and it sounded so good they better fix it!!!
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I hate the dipshits that work at TeenNick
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Agreed, those fucktards can’t do anything right. What does their boss fuckin do, sit on his ass all day and played bejeweled?? He needs to do some serious firing
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I thought i was the only one who couldnt see it but apparently not. The only things i remember was eli saying “i feel like your slipping away”.
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It’s on TeenNick.com
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dude, i couldn’t see the promo! i could only hear it! whats up with that?!
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Ahhhhh forget Eli, fitz is so hot <3 I was soooo happy to see him, I hope he'll become a series regular(:
&& whattup with the pitch black promo? Are the workers for teennick really THAT much of idiots, or this some kind of sick joke?
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the promo is on teennick.com
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Eli was crying in the promo! This is starting to get really intense!
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Eli is such a bitch
Clearly threatened by Fitz’s new found love of Jesus and his much bigger penis
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Hahahahahaha.
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OMGDIJNJFDKNFD true dat
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Lol true dat I like the fact that save blamed a lli lol
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THIS IS SO TRUE. He’s like, a pseudo goth version of KC.
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BWUAHAHAHAHAAAA!
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I like Sav. :)
And KC. :)
Jenna is still meh.
But man. Freaking EClare. I can kinda understand where Eli is coming from, because Eli did pull a knife on him, and if he can do it once, he can do it again. I think it’s totally realistic. Plus, that “I found Jesus” crap just rang out as utter bullshit to me.
But ugh. Eli. I think he has problems. Just saying.
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I also agree with ur comment lol when he said that I just literally bursted out laffing!!! I was like is Clare really buying this utter bullshit?? It was so fucking fake I’m srry I luv fitz but that was a terrible line….
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Right?
“Me and you… we have a spiritual connection.”
I laughed so hard, omfg. I know the guy who plays Fitz is a much better actor than that. It’s OBVIOUS that Fitz is insincere.
I have no idea how this Clare/Eli/Fitz storyline is going to play out. I’d have to say that it will settle down/resolve next week for the time being. But I think something will happen later, like Fitz making a move on Clare and Eli coming after him that will anger the hell out of Fitz. And then Eli’s over-protectiveness for Clare will go into overdrive and that’s when she’ll tell him “you’re suffocating me.”
And then, I don’t know, maybe Fitz will want to hurt Eli, possibly even playing a part in the supposed “car accident” he’ll get into. And thus, Eli will be proven correct that the “I found Jesus” sham was bologne.
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Can someone plz put the promo for the second part on YouTube I don’t care if it’s shity quality. I’d go on the teennick sight but I’m on my iPod cuz my computer has a virus and when I go on the teennick site on my iPod it gives me the fucking mobile site that dosent give u shit about anything going on.
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Next week is the rain scene. I wonder how Fitz got hurt? I want to say Eli did it, because that’d be good drama right there.
Anyway, this ep was GOLD for Flare fans. That whole “I’m sorry.” was so meaningful from Fitz, it was adorable. :) And the whole “spiritual connection”…hmmm…:)
I’m not totally on board with the whole religious Fitzy thing. I think it’s great he found Jesus and whatnot, but he seems…off. Like, less awesome. I don’t like that. >:c
Eli needs to stop being a whiny bitch. He’s getting on my nerves. Clare should dump him. :P
Also! I’d like to see Fitz and Adam make up. That’d be cute. :D
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Can I just say that Eli is a little b*tch. I’m literally tired of his character, he gets angry in a flash, then he has witty banter and a playful attitude, then he’s back to being angry, then he’s crying. He’s the crappy & less entertaining version of Craig.
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I agree with everything you said (although I don’t like Craig either). I wish the writers would ease up on Eli already. After all, there are 48 episodes this season and some characters (Wesley!) really need more screentime.
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Wow Eli is really not liking that Clare and Fitzs are friends. I love Eli, and i still do but he seriously needs to let go of the grudge against Fitz if he wants to still be with Clare bottom line. I think Fitz was being sincere. I mean it does come off as b.s but the writers are going to make Fitz be sincere. I’m excited for the second episode can’t wait for it!
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I’m tellin u flares gonna happen….hehehe omg since the promo for Jesus etc 2 was fucked up tonight all I heard was Eli crying saying something like plz don’t leave me and fitz saying something like me and u have a special bond over religon and it sounded like he was hitting on Clare!!!!!
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Ew, I hope not. Flare would be even more horribly cliched than EClare. I HATE bad boy/good girl relationships. Those are so tired.
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unless the good, religious girl goes bad. thatz what i want to happen if this whole flare thing happens. other wise, i think it’ll be boring if theyr both good and it’ll get annoying if fitz is bad and clare is just nagging him all the time. it would be a good story line to see clare be rebellious, and i mean REBELLIOUS! not just breaking curfew and dressing up like last time, although that was entertaining.
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I always find it weird that people categorize Eli-Clare as a Bad Boy/Good Girl relationship. I really don’t think Eli is a ‘Bad Boy’. So yeah he wears dark clothes and leather, but I don’t think he particularly tries to cultivate an image of being dangerous or even tough, really. Mostly he seems just introverted. He has issues he needs to deal with and he has a temper, but his aggression mostly comes out in very specific, personal circumstances — it’s not like he goes around being belligerent. On the whole, he’s actually very open about caring for people that matter to him — especially if you follow the character Twitter accounts. And speaking of that, half his tweets are about poetry, art, or the books he’s reading … again, not very much in the Bad Boy vein of things, I’d say.
I don’t know … I’m not trying to start an argument about this, it’s just something that perplexes me in the Eclare Discourse, so to speak :)
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The good girl going bad is tired and cliche too. So is the good girl turning bad after she dates a bad boy.
@Alice: He’s not really a bad boy, but the good girl/troubled boy thing is cliche too.
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I thought there was a new mini that was supposed to show tonight??
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Okay so I am a total Eclare fan I love them to pieces…and I love when guys are protective over their girlfreinds… I think that is sweet HOWEVER thats being said, the whole “your making it hard to do my job” thing gave me chills…. I dont know what is going on in his head but something tells me we will all be freaking out when we find out. There is something WAAAAYYY off about this kid.
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Yeah. I agree. There’s something off about Eli.
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i can really see Flare as turning into something if (and its a big IF) fitz isnt just BSing her.
what if he really didnt find god, but clare gets with him anyway (without knowing he lied, of corse) but the fact that hes with her DOES help him find god after all?……. & then he gets all self ritious & preechy, id enjoy seeing that
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I love Eli, and I hate seeing him when he goes all insane, I feel so bad for him =/
I really hope Clare/Fitz don’t become a thing.
And oh my, I just saw the new promo.
March 11th… hurry up… please!
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i did feel a little spark forming between clare and fitz at the dot. like the way she just forgave him so quickly, i know it’s in her nature, but she had eli in the dog house for three weeks before deciding to forgave him. i can already see them hinting at a realtionship later on, though not this seaon, i predict season 11. i can’t be the only one who noticed the little attraction, i’m not even a flare fan!
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I did notice that, but I hope they don’t get together. Because Clare is so forgiving, Fitz will think he can do whatever he wants.
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Is it just me or is the degrassi episode on Teen-Nick only 13 minutes long . . . or did Teen-Nick mess up again…. wtf. I’m totally missing a whole scene of clare and fitz talking.
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Yea it’s probably them fucking up again. Their hopeless. They don’t know how to work anything. God knows how these fucking idiots got hired but it’s fucking ridiculous how much they screw up.
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I have to admit, I really like that episode and mainly because I thought the writers did a great job keeping their characters consistent. I’ve noticed that most people have been extreme one way or another – either think Clare is an idiot or that Eli is insane. But, I think that it’s just good writing because they’ve set this up with their characters from day 1.
I mean, Clare is an overly trusting and forgiving person -you’ve seen it countless times. From when KC was a dick and used her to get good grades, to when Alli was on her Holly J. tirade, and even Fitz in All Falls Down, she’s always been someone who’d forgive and trust people, whether that be good for her or bad for her.
And Eli… well, his character speaks for himself. He actually reminds me a lot of someone I know. The sort of “Screw me once, well fuck you it’s over”. And he’s already had one girlfriend die, so his overprotectiveness is sort of a girlfriend.
I dunno… I kinda appreciate the writers here, making the it so close. I guess I’m a little bothered with the “Clare doesn’t deserve Eli, she’s such a dumbass” comments that I see. I mean, I know I can’t stand it when guys get insanely protective either. It’s sweet to an extent, but there’s a moment when it becomes too much, you know?
Wow. All of that to say props to the writers for keeping the characters consistent.
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Yes thank u!!! Somebody finally put the promo on YouTube. It looks good I’m guessing Eli walked in when like fitz and Clare were maybe hugging for some reason
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I like fitz and Clare together, but I wanted them to have a stirrings where Adam likes Clare. So It’s a love triangle with Eli, Clare, and Adam but looks like that will never happen.
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Looks like we’ll be seeing Flare instead of Eclare if Eli keeps up with this crappy attitude!
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Perish the thought!
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So it seems like im the only one who actually liked the Sav/Alli plot. oh and can i just say the line about sav getting everything was ridiculous. we all remeber the awkward dinner with anya. and the dead hand concert. alli even said herself “i think i could get caught with drew in my room naked and still be the good kid.” in all honesty this plot was actually my favorite.
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IT was mines too. I didn’t like how Alli tried to blame Drew for EVERYTHING but she was right that he had a part to play and if he didn’t come into her life the chain of events leading up to her leaving Degrassi would have never happened(well they could of but maybe not at such a fast rate)
It was weird though how Sav is immediately off the hook for all the things he did and Alli is the bad child. Their family always needs to have one child to put pressure on, and not trust. Now it’s Alli’s turn lol.
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It IS weird how they brushed off Sav and Holly J being caught mid-strip tease at Vegas Night. How is this any different than Alli and Drew in the Boiler Room??
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Everyone saw crapy attitude from eli….i saw ocd.
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I am totally and 100% with you.
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I think Eli/Clare/Fitz has potential to be my favorite triangle since Ashley/Craig/Manny.
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Part of me wants to chalk up Fitz’s awful dialogue (seriously, he sounded like he ought to have been thumping a bible in the Ozarks) to him having ulterior motives, and preying on Clare’s devotion to her faith as a means of getting her away from Eli.
However, it’s more likely that he was in fact being sincere, and that the lines can be attributed to some really AWFUL writing. Degrassi always manages to find a way to soften its bully characters, and it’s plausible that the writers wanted to turn the tables on Eli and Fitz during the second half of the season, with Eli presented as a villain, and Fitz as the good-hearted underdog. What intrigues me is wondering how the writers are going to keep audiences sympathetic towards Eli in the episodes to come, and for the rest of Munro’s tenure on the show? We’ve seen creepy and possessive boyfriends in Rick, and while he was more of a lost soul, and not really black and white “evil”, he wasn’t exactly someone viewers warmed up to. He really had no other option other than to be killed off.
But seriously…I hope that Fitz and Clare’s theological discussions are done offscreen…I don’t think that I can stomach any more of Chaplain Fitz’s syrupy sermons. Clare’s faith is pretty subtle. She isn’t a preacher, and respects people’s choice to believe what they want to. But if Fitz’s dialogue in this episode is a sign of things to come for his character, he’s better off with Fred Phelps and his family circus.
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Fred Phelps? Really? Yeah, Fitz’s lines weren’t terribly well written, but he didn’t exactly say anything all that crazy or offensive. “I love Jesus” and “I need you to forgive me” aren’t even close to actual Bible-thumper lines. No insulting, no condemnation, nothing. Just a guy either trying to get himself back on track or win Clare over (I have no idea if he’s being sincere…he’s done bad things, but hey, he was also nice to Clare at the dance). I’m curious as to what’s in store.
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I was exaggerating to make a point. His dialogue was so thickly laid on that it seems like he’s bullshitting.
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Maybe he was O.0
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I didn’t exactly get an overbearing “preachy” feeling from Fitz. All he said was that he found Jesus and explained why he was working at The Dot. He wasn’t trying to get her to come to church with him or quoting Bible passages- he was just being honest. I think it’s really a matter of interpretation, as everything in life is. Fitz is a new convert and the ‘shine’ is still on him. People who have risen out of a negative thought pattern have a tendency to want to shout it from the rooftops. It’s only natural to want others to feel as good as they do, whether spiritually motivated or not.
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when will the much music promo come out?
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Check out my recap/review of this week’s new episode! Reader feedback and comments are encouraged and appreciated!!!
http://thetwocentscorp.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/degrassi-%e2%80%93-recap-review-%e2%80%93-jesus-etc-part-one/
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GOOD GRIEF ELI LOOKS UGLY AS SHIT WHEN HE CRIES LMAO. I MEAN HE’S HIDEOUS ALREADY BUT MY GOSH
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Does this remind anyone else of what went on with Spinner and Darcy. I feel like they are going to completely recycle the plot. In terms of the episode I felt like it fell flat. I am really beginning to like Drew, and I like his connection with Bianca, but Ali has been acting like this since before Johnny. Also I think that for Jenna and KC to become interesting characters again something really big has to happen to them. I am so sick of them and their “Im not ready to have a child”shtick. Maybe she has the child prematurely or something. I just am finding them loosing my interest
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my sad guessing is the baby dies. hence the whole rumor of someone dying. . . they did many pregnancy stories on degrassi but never dealing with stillborns.
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That would actually make sense. I mean look how hard Jenna is trying to be “prepared” for this baby. It would make total sense as a cliche plot twist to build up this anticipation of KC and Jenna being good parents and preparing themselves only to have the baby be a miscarriage
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and also somewhat of a story of Jenna going through a depression story line at degrassi while KC goes through guilt because he’s relieved that it happened kind of thing.
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Better yet, give Jenna the guilt because she’s relieved storyline. She just doesn’t have the acting chops yet to pull off a depression storyline.
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Dude, I LOVE Bianca. I know that she was a b*tch to Adam but I think that was motivated by a feeling of betrayal. She put her trust in someone and that trust was dashed. This seems to be a recurring theme with her. I think Bianca wants to be loved but tries to use sex as an outlet for affection. This propagates a ‘bad rep’ and suddenly she becomes the girl you go to for a ‘good time’ instead of the girl you go to for a relationship. It’s difficult to make people (or even the girl in question) see aything different once this kind of pattern is established. It’s a method of conditioning- you begin to believe the social label. The thing with Drew interests me because I feel it could be very beneficial for Bianca, show her she’s more than just a number on a bathroom wall.
Alli does what a lot of people do- she blames personal choice on physical stimuli. She has totally lost sight of the fact that she is in control of her own actions. No one held a gun to her head and said, “Go to the Boiler Room with Owen,” or “Have sex with Johnny.” She made those decisions herself. Even so, I think Alli feels she has no other way out a lot of the time. She’s been told what to do her whole life- she feels controlled and truly believes that being ‘herself’ means doing the total opposite of what her parents want her to do. She will have to ‘lose’ everything and hit rock bottom before she can start fresh and build her own life. Watching her spiral out of control is certainly going to be interesting.
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Can i just say ive had it up to my head with fangirls (and im a pretty tall girl). i was scrolling the comments on youtube under the vid for next weeks ep. and i found myself appalled. everyones acting like fitz is such a horrible guy when in reality he really isnt. dating back to when Try Honesty was a new episode i thought eli was overeacting on numerous occassions. the whole reaso this whole rivalry started was because fitz ripped the skull off morty’s hood, after fitz wouldnt move. i remeber eli insulted fitz over a parking spot. really eli? and when fitz tried to end it eli tricked him and got him arrested. back to the dance all fitz wanted was a n apology. wat did eli do? he poisoned him. fitz tried to bury the hatchet many times but eli was being eli and refused to let it go. dont get me wrong, fitz has done some pretty bad things but fangirls are so blinded to the fact that eli has done some pretty bad things too. apperently to them their precious eli can do no wrong. i luv eli to but come on people.
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I am right there with you. I mean, I enjoy Eli’s character as a whole because he has the same sarcastic humor as I do, but (to quote someone else on this website) he can go batshit crazy.
And honestly? I do think that Fitz is more in the right in this situation. I mean, sure, scaring them with a knife was a shitty thing to do and all – mainly on the level that Clare got dragged into more than anything else – but I think people forget that Eli poisoned him. POISONED. HIM.
I mean, isn’t that more dangerous than scaring someone with a knife? Ipecac is some NASTY stuff too. And that seemed to be swept under the rug because he’s pretty. I just can’t wrap my mind around it.
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I think everyone will ignore the bigger picture of Jesus Etc 1 & 2 because they are too concerned with how “omg cute” Munro is. But Degrassi hasn’t talked about Christianity before or after Darcy until now. It’s something I have to deal with in my life every day being that my parents are hardcore Christians, and I think it’s good Degrassi is finally discussing religion again.
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I’m glad to see that they are discussing it again. To me, Clare is a much more realistic Christian than Darcy. Darcy’s virginity issues were just annoying. Clare cares about her religion but obviously doesn’t allow it to rule her entire life. I’m a Christian, so it’s nice to see them portrayed as normal everyday people who just happen to have a different set of beliefs.
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I was just watching the muchmusic promo on youtube and holly j was walking with sav and she said something that sounded like ” that makes me wonder if i should pick up lesbianism” which i found veeerrryyy interesting…..
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foreshadowing! :O
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How was Alli’s plot on this episode? I don’t have teennick and no internet. And teennick mobile totally sucks. Fml, lol now on the topic how was the overall episode? And btw does anyone know a site that shows full degrassi episodes, that works for mobile phones? And random but I really feel for Conor, he has had basically nothing this season aside from lovequeen16 or whatever she’s called lol. Let’s hope season 11 benefits him more.
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Um… Alli’s plot was more Sav’s plot with Alli in it. Sav is making a demo of his live music for University and decides to get a drummer. Bad thing is, Drew is by far the best drummer in the school.
Even though Alli feels like Sav’s the only one on his side, he decides that for the benefit for his future, he’s going to do music with Drew, which of course Alli finds out about. Alli starts yelling at Sav for it later, then Sav just flips out and screams – some of it true, some of it really harsh – and then Alli storms out.
I mean, it was a fine plot, but I feel like it was more setting up next week than anything else.
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I like Eli when he’s crazy and psyhcotic
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What is everyone’s favorite episode of Degrassi?
Mine is “If This Is It”
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Time Stands Still or My Body Is A Cage, too epic for words.
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Also, does anyone think Fiona may stay on Degrassi for another season, like all of season 11? It would make sense in a way, I mean she took her mid terms drunk. So she could stay another year to up her marks. This may just be the Fiona lover in me, who wants her to stay on the show the most humanily possible. lol
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I agree! It makes sense, an it would be cute to imply it to whatever relationship she’s in ( hopefully Adam) I totally Fiona, so I hope she stays on fir as log as she fan
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Eli and Fitz, belligerent sexual tension anyone? I wasn’t even TRYING to go all slash fangirl on them, but goddamn it they just take care of it anyway. I cannot be the only one who noticed it. I mean, it’s probably just the actors. But still, they act like they have more chemistry than Paige and Alex did.
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Yeah, I’m thinking Munro’s not 100% straight. That, and James is really hot, sooo. Haha.
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I would take Fitz/Eli over EClare or Flare any day.
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^ Really?
my gaydar goes off ALOT with Sam Earle lol
Anyhoo…
I’m so sick of Eli, he’s a whiny ass bitch. “Ooh don’t leave me, my girlfriend DIED.” Bitch, please! Life’s going to pass you by and you’ll just become a cliched representation of the depressed bad boy –Oops, looks like that already happened.
Clare is a nice, naive character, always loved her but she needs a plot to herself.
Fitz…. he turned around, that’s cool and all, but did he used to live in the same hick town as jenna? he came across like such a hick, i swear.
Alli… was Alli, Sav is kinda in the middle, and I wanna be the ham in a Drianca sandwich.
Looking forward to next week!!!
Oh, i forgot KC and Jenna lol
Whoever said babysitting a 6 year old won’t help with a baby is SO. RIGHT. They’re such losers…. I hope Jenna dies in childbirth and KC has to raise the kid himself, or like someone else said, they should lose the baby and Jenna gets depressed while KC is guilty because he’s relieved.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I get gay vibes from KC too lmao
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I really think they’re rushing the rest of season 10. The weekly episodes are too short and they’re not putting so much depth anymore into the plotlines. For the eclare story they left them happy and whatnot at the end of when love takes over and all of a sudden Eli is phsyco
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Wow, I’m really shocked at the majority of the responses. I’m surprised that everyone seems to be taking Fitz’s side just because he found Jesus and turned over a new leaf and Eli needs to chill. Don’t any of you feel that Eli had a right to be angry and cautious? The guy pulled out a knife on him, yes I know because Eli was a jerk towards him throughout the Boiling Point. Plus Clare is his girl….wouldn’t you be protective if you saw your girl talking to the guy who could’ve seriously hurt you?
Honestly Clare was the one who annoyed me in this episode.
Last, I’m so happy that Sav told Alli that her life was her fault and not anyone else’s.
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Eli DESERVED to get a knife pulled on him. Eli was just as bad as fitz in that feud, or did people forget that the only reason Fitz even pulled the knife was because Eli poisoned him. even Clare admitted it.
“you deserve whatever happens to you”
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Eli deserved to be punished for poisoning Fitz(that was SO messed up). But did he deserve being pinned to a wall by a guy threatening to stab him? Ummmmmmmmmmmm, NO.
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I’m not going to bother with the Jenna and K.C. plot as nothing this season has made me like them… AND the ep seems to just be set up for next week for them.
While this weeks half of the plot focused on Sav, I think overall the plot is Alli’s again. Continuing from last set of eps and her trying to get her life in gear. Sav was really harsh on Alli but I enjoyed every scene of it because, God, he’s right. Alli is still blaming it all on anyone and everyone else BUT ‘she screwed up.’ The only bit that isn’t her fault (and it still IS because she decided to go along with the girl’s stunts) is the caught smoking thing.
Sav can feel sorry for her, but he can’t screw up his future because she wants to hold a grudge against Drew forever.
On to a Flare for Eclare. Eli’s not being comfortable around Fitzy is justified and understandable, the trouble in this is that it isn’t focused around himself. He’s one car engine away from being a sparklepyre when it comes to controlling about Clare. Given his last girlfriend died, not surprising he’d have issues.
Fitzy’s turn around I think could be legitimate, and I hope they don’t rehash Spinner/Darcy this way. What I do hope is that Fitz becomes obsessed with Clare to justify some of Eli’s concerns, but not address the underlying issue in his actions (yet, that’ll come later). Fitz’s heart is in the right place but he’d still be a total psycho. Fitz is too good an antagonist to waste turning totally good just yet. Unless they plan to bring in a new villain or two next season (please do that, the only villain we’d have left is Owen, and he’s just a pig).
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Okay, this may be me totally grasping for straws, but first I genuinely though Fitz was trying to make right, but then I noticed… in the episode, it sorta looks like Clare’s the one constantly reaching out to him, but…
When he first approached Clare at Degrassi, he ran as SOON as Eli drove up. I mean, he could’ve easily tried to talk to Eli about forgiveness too right there if it meant so much. And in the promos, going to Clare’s house specifically? Now I’m not sure his motives anymore. I actually like that though. Usually I can predict what happens on Degrassi, but I genuinely am not sure which way Fitz is going.
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I think he ran as soon as Eli drove up because let’s face it, Eli gets way too defensive way too fast. Talking to Eli on school property could have caused a scene and then Mr. Simpson would have gotten involved and consequently Fitz would have been in big trouble for stepping onto school property. Plus, Clare seemed more reasonable and easier to talk to first.
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I personally don’t see why people are giving Eli such a hard time.
Yes, poisoning Fitz was wrong, but dude, it’s not like Fitz died or had to go to the hospital. All he did was throw up.
Fitz pulled a KNIFE on Eli, which was a bit drastic. I mean, since all the poison did was make him throw up, I think he should’ve done something less drastic, like just throwing a couple of punches at Eli.
And then Fitz coming and pulling all this “I found God” blah blah. I mean, he could be telling the truth, and if Clare wants to believe him then I say let her. She’s always been to naive and trusting anyway.
However, Eli is NOT being a “whiny little bitch” as people are calling him. I can understand where he came from for these three reasons:
1. Eli is an atheist. Of course he’s going to freak out when his enemy suddenly believes the same thing as his girlfriend; he’s going to be scared that his girlfriend might want Fitz more than himself because of Fitz’s supposed religious beliefs.
2. His ex-girlfriend DIED and he blames himself for it. Enough said.
3. The dude pulled a knife on him. Again, Eli could’ve been a little nicer to Fitz when he apologized and NOT poisoned him, but I think Fitz took it too far. =/
That’s all I have to say.
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Fitz and Eli did the EXACT same thing in the Boiling Point: they both tried to use fear as a way to control another person. How can you overlook the fact that Eli made someone physically ill and take issue with Fitz pulling a knife, which he didn’t even USE? The methods were different but the intent was identical- they both tried to wound each other’s pride. Eli by making Fitz look ‘weak’ in front of the school and Fitz by exposing Eli’s ‘weakness’ in front of Clare. The action was equal, dude. Case closed.
I used to love Eli, before I discovered what a hypocritical nitwad he is. He tolerates anything that fits in with his definition of ‘secular rebellion’ but criticizes everything else. He had no problem whatsoever with Adam’s revelation because it ‘threatens’ society yet he’s a condescending little punk when it comes to Clare’s faith. Tolerate across the board dickface, everyone has their own individual right to believe what they want to and by undermining the beliefs of others, you become just like the repressive people you dislike. And let’s not forget that Clare’s faith has played a huge part in who she is. If Eli loves her he has to own up to the idea that Clare’s beliefs have had some bearing on her character and that the traits he admires have been formulated in part by her spiritual interpretation.
Atheism does not give you the right to act like a terd.
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I agree 100 percent!
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This is very off topic lol but when do dr Chris and Anya come back into the picture?? I’m just wondering cuz aside from Eli fitz and Clare Anya is also 1 of my favorites and I’m really hoping we so more of those 2 in this season and not have to wait till season 11 cuz he told Anya they’d try again when she turned 18. I find their storyline very entertaining :)
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read these. they’re important from degrassi wiki.
Chasing Pavements (2)
* Aislinn Paul (Clare) confirmed on twitter in this episode, Clare goes through some severe emotional trauma.
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Drop the World (1)
As the school dance approaches, someone still hasn’t found what they’ve been looking for.
* It has been confirmed this episode will take place, and end at the Spring Formal.
* Stephen Stohn said it’s not a coincidence that the 2nd part of this episode airs on the anniversary of Julia’s death
* Stephen Stohn tweeted the four main characters of this episode will be Eli, Julia, Clare & Bullfrog
* The title of this episode is named after “Drop the World” by Lil Wayne
Drop the World (2)
When someone doesn’t get what they want they bring a weapon to Degrassi. What will happen when the killer enters Degrassi?
http://degrassi.wikia.com/wiki/Chasing_Pavements_%282%29
http://degrassi.wikia.com/wiki/Drop_the_World_%281%29
http://degrassi.wikia.com/wiki/Drop_the_World_%282%29
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O shit is fitz gonna be responsible for bringing another weapon to school?? NO WAIT!!! What if it’s Declan who wants holly j but holly j turns him down for sav and he gets pissed and like accidently kills holly j or something ( I just assume she’s the 1 who dies instead of sav cuz there have been may rumors saying it’s a girl who dies) (also this will probably be declans last scene on degrassi cuz isn’t he leaving??)
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Eli brings the weapon
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@facultybob actually that does sound logical and it goes with my theory on fitz and Clare getting together
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:o Holy crap. Shit is about to hit the fan! I can already tell this finale is going to be 100000x better than All Falls Down. Not that there’s anything wrong with All Falls Down, which is a good episode in and of it self, but that ish got waaaaay too hyped.
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Well from the sounds of the promo where Fitz says “We have a spiritual connection” it would seem like hes hitting on her. So I wouldnt blame Eli for keeping his guard up. But he could play cooler but in real life its really hard to play it cool and rational when feel ur bf/gf slipping away. He’s only human and jealousy goes along with being one.
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Another thing, am I the only one who thought Holly J seemed kinda off? Like every time it showed her she looked exhausted….
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I noticed this too… Have you seen the episode description for Hide and Seek? Apparently she’s experiencing health issues for overworking herself. I like that they connect these things in other episodes. +1 for Degrassi writers!
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Same!!!!! I’ve been thinking these past few episodes she looks awful. Her hair is a complete mess! She never does it anymore and looks like she barley brushes it. Her hair was beautiful during the boiling point! Another thing she looks like she hasn’t gotten any sleep in weeks. Did they stop doing her make up??
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I’m glad I’m not the only one who bursted out laughing when Fitz was all “I found Jesus.” Hahaha, it really does come off as bullshit. I’m not sure whether it’s because he’s being insincere, it’s bad acting, or it’s just shitty writing in general, but I’m withholding judgment on whether Fitz really is reformed or not until the next episode. I really wouldn’t be surprised if this was all some ploy to further screw over Clare and Eli. Then again, he’s been gone long enough that an actual reformation isn’t totally out of the realm of reason. I just wish it wouldn’t come off as so contrived.
Speaking of Eli, people are being WAY too hard on him. It’s been clear from the beginning that Eli harbors a very dark side to his personality, much darker than I think most people realize; he’s not just being a “whiny little bitch.” I have to say, I’m honestly terrified for Clare because she’s going to get the worst end of whatever results from his behavior. Eli’s definitely got severe mental issues (apart from the hoarding). All of this just stems back to what happened with Julia, which I’m inclined to believe the truth behind it is a lot more darker than Eli’s willing to let on. In any case, I can’t blame him for the way he’s acting because I really don’t think he’s completely in control of his own mind. If anything, I pity him.
If anything, the person I’m annoyed with the most in this situation is Clare. She WOULD be the naive and overly trusting one time and time again… I hope it’s not just me, but I think she forgave Fitz far too quickly. Actually, I’m starting to think she forgave Eli too quickly for what happened at Vegas night too. I think she just tries so hard to find the good in both of them that she can’t see just how screwed up both of them are. It doesn’t surprise that she’s going to eventually want to separate herself from all of it for fear of her own well-being.
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I LOVE what you just said. I agree with everything. You’re right – Clare is a naive personality stuck in the middle of two guys with severe problems. I’m genuinely curious to see how this pans out.
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Oh, and I want to punch Alli SO HARD in the face and give Sav the biggest high five. It’s about time someone told her the truth: that everything bad about her life is a result of her own stupid actions. And how selfish can you be to prefer that your brother go with a shitty drummer and risk his own future just because you can’t seem to move on from your past? Dumbass girl.
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Wow Drop The World sounds good. Probably gonna be a more interesting Spring Formal than last years lol.
But wow another weapon? At first it seemed really ridiculous. But the only way I could imagine it not seeming hard to believe, would be if it was connected to what happened in All Falls Down.
Like Eli is seeking revenge on Fitz for what happened at A Night in Vegas. Though it’s hard to imagine Fitz is involved considering he is not allowed at Degrassi.
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I think that people are really missing the point of this episode. This episode is basically showing all the EClare fans that the relationship isn’t perfect, and actually has flaws. Differences in religion or religious views is actually really big, and I thought this episode a really big precursor to conflicts Eli and Clare will have in the future.
I mean, Clare was able to forgive Fitz because forgiveness is part of her faith. Eli, on the other hand, doesn’t have his faith telling him to forgive Fitz. This alone will most likely cause problems in their relationship. Eli also indirectly called Clare’s religion “crap”, which is a huge no-no. That’s just something you don’t say to a religious person. Even though differences in perspectives is good, even needed, in relationships, this is one difference that would take a lot to overcome.
This new leaf Fitz has turned will cause a problem for Eli and Clare, even if nothing comes of a relationship between Fitz and Clare.
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^^^^What she said.
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Ok ppl if the muchmusic promo didn’t convince u that fitz is trying to steal Clare then I don’t no what will. It tells us fitz was cyber stalking Clare in the middle of the night, he’s showing up at her house telling her they have a spiritual connection, and the narraration was all about falling in love. Fitz likes smart girls so ready or not here he comes
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I’m honestly tired of all these people who consistently take Eli’s side! I use to like him, i still do but hes just a straight up ass hole some times. I mean Fitz is no doubt trying to steal Clare but come on getting him arrested and poisoning him? Like seriously if he really cared about Clare he would have stopped when she asked him to. Fitz wanted to end the feud twice and Eli of course had to “teach him a lesson.” Such crap. Fitz wasn’t going to hurt him that wasn’t his intention. And he tried apologizing to Eli and Eli didn’t want to accept it. Oh then every body gets on Fitz because the fight club incident. Adam is still physically a boy and they didn’t want to hurt him. So Adam hit Fitz over that. But then no one likes to get on Drew that he is hanging out with Bianca. The person who is responsible for Adams secret at. Smh i love how people make up excuses for all of the good people on the show who can do bad things and get way with it. But we will see what happens with Clare/Eli because I don’t think it’s going to last.
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A girl I meant
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Uuuuuuugh, I know it’s coming in some way, shape, or form, but fuuuuuck the idea of Fitz and Clare getting together; that is just far too predictable and straight up annoying. Fitz is obviously going to pursue her, which I’ll be interested to watch, but if Clare gives in… sj;alfkjasfl As horribly cliche as the whole good girl/troubled boy coupling is, I was at least able to believe in Eclare because that was a couple that actually took the time to get to know each other and connect on a deep level before officially dating. That was refreshing to see in Degrassi as opposed to half of the other current couples which are either completely superficial or out of nowhere.
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Eli/Clare/Fitz: Both Eli and Fitz deserved what they got. Neither of them would end the feud civily and continued to push each other. I find myself understnading where Eli is comming from but I’m not taking sides. They are both messed up. Fitz seemed insincere (may be due to bad writing or bad acting, not sure which, maybe both) and Eli seemed overreactive. At this point the only healthy thing to do is get therapy for both of them.
Ali/Sav/Drew: Sav is right, Ali did all this to herself, but there was no need to be so harsh. However, I think he needed to be harsh to get his point across. I find it interesting how sweet Bianca was towards Drew and Sav and how Ali didn’t even acknowledge her presence. Bringing up the existing tension between Drew and Ali was an odd choice but it was interesting when Drew said he’s trying to move on (as in he hasn’t already and therefore Bianca is a rebound and might get hurt in the end becuase she truely likes him).
KC/Jenna: Totally uninterested. I’m thinking the only reason they have this plot is to buildup to the birth (or possible miscarrage of the baby)
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Very well said about the fitz and Eli thing. I agree both sides have things their guilty of and I don’t think it’s really appropriate to take sides becuz in the end were never gonna get an actual answer that tells us who’s the victim here. it’s all just based on opinion
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Ahhh, all of this discussion is just killing me because I really have no idea where Eli/Clare/Fitz’s storyline is going to go by the time Season 10 ends. I haven’t been this puzzled by or interested in Degrassi for a long time. I’m just dying with anticipation, and the rumors surrounding Drop The World aren’t helping.
Something shocking better happen with Kenna’s storyline quick because I think we’re all losing interest in them… plus they also happen to be one of my least favorite Degrassi couples of all time.
And how are we so sure that Bianca sincerely likes Drew? It all sounds like lust to me. The only thing that makes me slightly believe in “Drianca” is the fact that they both seem to accept each other for who they really are, reputation and all.
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I agree I think Kenna is just awful. I don’t like how they got started and their just plain old boring. Kc Is a peice of shit becuz he complains about everything and can be an asshole just in general. Jenna is a bitch becuz she stole kc and she’s annoying as hell always upbeat and giddy. praise the lord the day those 2 leave the show.
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im not one of those freaky eli loving girls that hate on clare for no reason but he just appears to be overprotective, not scary. he doesnt seem like he is going to kill them or something. he seems pretty chill (at least when he is away from fitz). as for her saying “i never asked you to protect me”, THATS WHAT BOYFRIENDS/GIRLFRIENDS DO FOR EACH OTHER. kind of part of the job description? whatever. hope things work out. fitz and clare might make for an interesting couple :P its safe to say that eli or fitz could die, yet some small part of me thinks its sav. next week should be intense at least :3 THRILLED. <3
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Eli-I understand why he’s being so protective of Clare with Fitz. For goodness sake, he was threatened with a knife by him, and his last girlfriend DIED. It’s cute when a boyfriend wants to protect his girlfriend-but there’s a limit. And Eli crossed the limit BIG time. Eli needs to understand that Clare has to do whatever she pleases, whether he likes to or not. And if she wants to talk to Fitz, he has a right to be worried, but not go all super-overprotective-batshit-crazy.
Clare-Needs to be a bit more worried about Eli. I mean when he can switch from being happy to seriously mad is seriously scary.
Alli-Needs to stop blaming other people and blame the only person responsible for her actions-herself. Was I the only one who stood up and cheered when Sav told her off? She was messing up LONG before Drew. Nobody made her dress like that, date Johnny, have SEX with Johnny, go into the boiler room with Owen, send naked photos of Bianca around the school, or fight her. She needs to get a clue-fast.
Sav-Thank goodness he finally grew a pair! He had every right to hire Drew to record a song he was sending to his dream COLLEGE (not some stupid contest, but a to place that could change his life), no matter what Ally thought. Throughout the series, he’s pretty much been a stand up guy, who always tries to help Ally deal with their crap. And now he needs her to be understanding, and she flips out…WTF!
Jenna-I honestly don’t care. Never did, never will. It’s the same cliché that’s been done millions of times. Of course she starts obsessing about the baby and worrying she won’t be a good mother. I’ve NEVER seen that storyline before.
KICK-Don’t give a damn about him either. I thought he was an idiot when she broke up with Clare, an ass for leaving Jenna when he knocked her up and predictable when he wants to get all the fun time in before the baby comes. So yeah, I don’t care for K.C (that was unintentional…funny but unintentional)
Drew-I hate how the writers just decided to make him play the drums like that. Were we supposed to believe that, since Drew has talked about being a total 0 times? I also hate how they made him get with Bianca. I actually like Bianca, but the only interaction they’ve had were hooking up, or talking about how they hooked up, and how them hooking up ruined Drew’s life. Now all of a sudden they’re perfect for each other.
Fitz-He is either totally Bsing, or totally serious. Him getting forgiveness from Eli will take a true act of God…or act of Clare.
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