The only thing that I knew about this episode before watching was that involved Jenna and ‘Next Teen Star’ (a plot device that I hate), and Alli getting into a fight with Bianca. Boy did it start off slow, but it ended up being a solid way to start off the season.
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PLOT A: Alli wants a fresh start, and tries to clear her name.
Alli joins the "I Don't Want To Be Known As A Whore" Club.
As the students of Degrassi return to a newer, stricter school, Alli decides she’s going to start over and adopt the classic “New year, new look, new Paige” philosophy. Decides to give Drew a second chance, and she joins the Science Olympians with Adam, Wesley and Connor. However, her faux past won’t go away when even they question if the rumors about her in the boiler room were true.
The ultimate slap in the face is when Principal Simpson requires her to take a self esteem; a class that happens to only be for girls. Alli’s rival Bianca is also in the seminar. The claws come out as a still-bitter Alli can’t help but take verbal jabs at Bianca, and while the rest of the girls take a break, Alli stays behind. She grabs Bianca’s phone and forwards a sexy photo of Bianca to “EVERYONE.”
Who are all these girls using the boiler room as their sexual palace?!?!
That leads to a fight between Alli and Bianca, and them both getting suspended, but not before Alli’s parents find out the truth about her double life the past couple of years…and we’re talking more than just about her switching clothes at. They learn about her sexting incident with Johnny as well as her skipping school the day she went to get herself tested for STI’s.
In a desperate bid to repair her shattered image and gain her parents’ trust again, Alli decides to leave Degrassi.
Degrassi once again shows it’s figured out how to use continuity by allowing all of Alli’s past incidents spill right into her parents’ lap. It’s also kind of nice that Alli became self-aware; she acts dumb around boys, and finally realizes it. I didn’t see this as her placing the blame of what’s happened completely on Drew, or Johnny or boys in general, because we’ve all seen her moronic ways when it comes to boys…and she’s not the only girl on this show that’s behaved that way.
Those tears = character development
The nagging issue of this story is how it’s developed in a way that so blatantly focuses on pushing Alli in a certain direction. I felt like “piling on” Alli, aka virtually turning her into a school-wide outcast, was unnecessary…the main reason it felt so “in your face” is because excluding Fitz and Eli and (somewhat) Bianca, anyone else whose actions contributed to the rule changes received not even a slap on the wrist. However, the fact they made Alli go to such great lengths to get her life back on track at the end (by leaving Degrassi) shows a level of maturity and development not only in Alli, but also a continued sense of stability in Degrassi’s writing when it comes to the heart of the issue.
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PLOT B: Jenna’s worried that her pregnancy will ruin her chances of winning Next Teen Star.
It's a Next Teen Star/Maury crossover....
UGH. That was my initial thought on this episode after the first scene…I haven’t been a fan of the Next Teen Star bit because I don’t like the whole “let’s make characters on the show famous” idea that’s floated around since the Kevin Smith days. But in the end I was impressed with how they used it in this episode to move Jenna’s storyline along.
Still competing in Next Teen Star, Jenna finds herself in need of the one thing that EVERY person in reality tv needs to get somewhere: a HOOK. Hers is obviously that she’s pregnant, but she still afraid of what people will think if they find out. That is until she’s in the bottom two of NTS, and reveals her pregnancy on TV to build a fanbase.
....and KC does NOT want to be the father.
And if you’re name’s KC, you’re pissed because she reveals this big news as your sitting at a steakhouse watching the show with your mom. He calls Jenna out for using her pregnancy to get points with fans on NTS; I’m actually ok with her doing that, but what’s not okay is her lack of planning for the baby’s arrival.
One thing that’s continually frustrating about this storyline is how KC is just lingering around with his “I don’t want any part of this” attitude. The entire episode I’m wondering “Why are you even here?” With a solid performance from Jenna this episode continues the positive momentum of this storyline established in Tears Dry On Their Own, Part 2.
Degrassi's baby-naming game show returns for the first time since Season 3!! Do not name your kid Kevin...or Maude.
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SIDE NOTES
*Not seeing Peter in the opening credits kind of made me sad. It was his time to go, though. I read a comment somewhere that said Peter is a bigger character than Chantay. Ummmmmm, no. He was without a shadow of a doubt from Season 5 – Season 9, but when your character is confined to The Dot and Wesley’s uncle has more lines than you, you aren’t bigger than anyone.
*GIGANTIC? I can’t even begin to describe how uninteresting this show is. I watched the series premiere with a girl and we both were thinking “What in the hell is this?” 45 minutes into we both said screw this and started making out…no lie. The show took a bunch of random pieces of drama and threw them against the wall. This premiere gave me absolutely no reason to care about any of these characters.
I’m going to try to watch another episode and pray I can make it all the way through. Why is TeenNick pushing Gigantic so hard? Because THIS show is their baby. Degrassi’s of course the cornerstone of TeenNick, but they want to force people into liking this show because it’s TeenNick’s original idea. Well the way I’m feeling right now I’m not sure what’s worse, pushing a new (but terrible) show or rely on the same old syndicated shows.
*The Fall Promo
IM SO EXCITED!!!! AHHHH
your jacket is EPIC :D
ahh whered you get it?
lmao oh Kary…You look so damn cool in that pic! xD
Omg this is a great night for Teennick, Even though people dont support Gigantic its here finally and so is Degrassi :D
OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG 49MINS LEFT YAYAYAYAYAYAY I CANT BELIEVE ITS HERE I CANT WAIT FOR THE EPISODE AND NEW OPENING CREDITS OMG YAYAYAYYAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so happy(:, idk. im waiting for the ali part more thaan theen jenaa plot so yea(: byee !
YESSSS:D
KARY YOUR BLOG IS EPIC.
OMG 2 more minnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE GET THAT TEENNICK AND MUCHMUSIC ONN!!!!
nice uniforms imust saay, ah ithough claire would have her sttraten hair xD
Zane has been put in the credits! Finally! Yes!
who is the lady from the self esteem seminar?? she was on another teennick show or was it degrassi??
She was from The Best Years!! Miss that show!
She was from “The best years”
I miss the best years or atleast season 1 that was Amazing
That was the girl who was the actress from the show like saved by the bell, right?
lol I thought she looked like Monet from Big Brother……
She was on The Best Years…with Samantha Best about a college girl who found out her principal or something was her moms sister. It was pretty good I dont know why they canceled it. :(
That lady was ON Degrassi. I was thinking the same thing, but I honestly can’t wrap my head around who she is…
shes from the best years
what happens in this episode, my grandparents were here so i missed it, please tell
Jenna tells everyone she’s pregnant and gets kicked off next teen star
Alli’s parents find out about EVERYTHING and she leaves degrassi. To sum it all up.
is the episode uploaded anything yet? goshh. Teen Nick takes forever to add the videos up after they air and i am dying to see it now! lol
upload anywhere yet***
is Zane in grade 12?
Yes. That was confirmed on MuchMusic’s site when he gained a profile.
i kinda hate the episode so far, Its like everyone in Degrassi makes mistakes and Alli is the only person who has to pay for all of hers :(
I’m sure when the episode focuses on one of the others, we’ll see someone else suffering from the last events. Holly J, Sav, and Drew seem to have skated free (Drew probably due to mom running interference, Sav and Holly J were relatively good that night, Owen escaped the scene).
Eli and Fitz are punished, hence not being around. The issue being that the only public announcement of boiler antics was Alli and Drew.
love seeing zane and owen in the credits!!!
HOLY SHIT JENNA AND SAV????? HOLLY J VS JENNAA? DREW AND ADAM FIGHT OVER FIONA OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!! CLARE SLEEPING OVER ELIS WHAT OMG OMG OMG
What a strange pairing. Did you also see the first hints of Adam and Fiona?
I saw Adam and fiona but no drew, and jenna and sav never crossed my mind.
Could you tell me why everyone was talking about Adam and Fiona gettting together a long time ago? Was there a promo I didnt see? Can someone explain!!
@Kerrin I didn’t see Adam/Fiona, but they kind of hinted at Drew/Fiona in 99 Problems pt.1 when Riley and Drew were in Economics class, remember? There were the Jess’s and then there was Fiona.
@I well, ppl were talking about Fiona/Adam a while ago because Fiona and Adam are a lot of ppl’s favorite characters, and in I think Try Honesty the description said that Fiona finds a new friend, and then everybody thought it was Adam…I hope that helps!
@Heelsoverhead: The reason everyone likes Fiona/Adam is because they have an official picture together, and also because Annie and Jordy do all of their interviews together. Most of the other interview-pairings are couples (Argiris/Shannon, Charlotte/Ray, Munro/Aislinn, Jess/Sam). So that’s why people think Fadam is happening.
Guess we know why the actresses who play Allie and Claire were talking about crying so much!
And dang, that promo was awesome!
meh
Holy shit…………….My puppy barfed!
wow! really? hahah dude you just made me laugh so much..so random
OMG that promo I cant even start to make sense of this, JENNA AND SAV?? Adam turns into Gracie but like Fiona, and Drew wants Fiona?!! Clare sex and Eli <—nuff said, and Jenna pregnancy! This season is going to be one not to miss LOL
BTW I like Big Time Rush better than Degrassi. I lost interest after the boiling point and when they added Adam.
Stop trolling troll. Oh wait, you must be a rude 4 year old, as you like Big Time Losers.
i agree..BTR SUCKS BALLS! ive never even been able to sit and watch a whole episode of that lame ass show
LISTEN GUYS ITS NOT BAD SHOW AND THEY HAVE AMAZING SONGS AND BESIDES THEY ARE SOO HOT AND I WAS JK ABOUT ADAM ME AND MY FRIENDS CALL THIS FAT CHICK IN MY SCHOOL “ADAM FORM DEGRASSI” ITS FUCKING HILARIOUS AND SHE JUST STARES AT US AND LAUGHS BECAUSE SHE THINKS WE ARE HER FRIENDS ITS THE BEST XD holy shit i was typing that in caps well im too lazy to fix it. :P
You suck!!!!!!! Degrassi is waaaaaayyyyyyyy better!
Can you specify what you like about Big Time Rush Eliluver? BTR is using the same plot as other similar shows. Kendall and Logan’s girlfriends are hot as hell, but yeah same plot.
Haha it’s not bad as it looks. At first I thought it was shit then i watched the episode without thinking negative things and it’s really not a bad show. And I prefer the songs of big time rush verses the show. They are a real band, you know?
GOTTA LOVE THIS SITE!
i love btr, but it’s not better than degrassi.
‘..when they added Adam.’
so you’re homophobic? oh wow, you’re cool. stay pressed bitch.
LOL u wud have died then if u were where i live 3 nights ago they were at the best buy like 5 mins away from me doing cd signings and it was loud as fuck in there, i only went cuz my friend luvs that show 2 and wanted me to go with her and i took a picture of her and i think logan?? idk i dont watch that shit but he gave me a hug 2 and told me i shud watch the show cuz i told him i dont really watch it and i was thinking yea… in my head lol no lie tho i swear but degrassi is a HELL OF A LOT BETTER!! hell no im not watching that shit even if 1 of them told me 2 in person, what i shud have done is got something signed and sell it to makes some serious cash lol
This episode was way better than i thought it would be. And the upcoming episodes look epic.
How crazy is it that Sav and Anya lost their virginity in the limo,and Jenna ends up in labor in a limo with Sav in the car. lmao
wait sav was in the limo i thought it was K.C.
Whoops,i though that was Sav. My mistake
It is Sav
I knew i wasn’t trippin.
OMFG drew and adam fighting over Fiona thats the fight everyone was saying drew and adam were gonna have- i never thought that it wud be over fiona tho!!! jenna Falling for sav!!! holy crap!!! Declan trying to woo holly j!!! Jenna going into labor in a lino wit K.C. Ahhhhh next week come already!!!1
Sav and Jenna? Are you kidding me? Please tell me nothing substantial happens between them.
Probably the worst couple in Degrassi history; if indeed they become a couple?
Sav is a playa, amirite?
Nothing to worry about Wut?, its just another fling on the side. Sav is making his final year very memorable.
he is indeed..i bet clar is the next one on his fuck list
The episode was okay…I love KC’S Mom!
BUT THE PROMO HOLY FRACKING FRACK
oh.my.god. i am so pissed with this. ALLI TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL. SO DOES THIS MEAN SHE WONT BE IN THE SHOW. UGH I AM SO MAD. alli is clearly the best character on the show and in the new commercial she wasnt in it one bit. i cannot believe this
damn that shit just went down like kmnaes known to do on a hot fisrts date damn son. what else is to be said other then the first half was fucking ca ca ca crazy crazy baby. The only thing i dont get is since the crime rate in canada isnt aired on the tele why was it so important too know about the baby drama on the show and its not like i was the only one to lol hard when the “qued up phones for the weakest fight ever”….so all and all i was please and am alos happy to see ally piss away on to the other school….see ya next friday!
What??? i have no idea what ur post meant
than why you on my balls….
LOL mayne, you funny as hell.
The baby stuff is important because obviously Jenna is going to pop soon and you know how she gon do it by watching the previews for future shows.
Alli ain’t gon piss away at the all girl’s school because she is looking for a fresh start. I bet you want to see HLA over there.
promo was amazing yes do it degrassi Fiona and Adam and Jenna vs Holly J? Well that’s interesting wow more Eli/Claire drama and awesome episode deserves a B or even a B+ loved the Alli and Claire ending
I don’t even care what episode grades any episodes this season gets. THIS season is going to be SUPER MEGA EPIC. Like just the things they are covering this season, Jealousy, Cheating, Pregnancy, (possible) Divorce, and more!!!!
Whoa… Divorce?!?! Where’d you get that from?!?! Who divorces??? Spinner and Emma?!
Clares parents
What up everyone?
Charlotte’s looking pretty as hell and Annie’s eyes are very seductive.
I’m liking what I’m seeing so far. Alli would’ve whooped Bianca’s ass had Snake not intervened. It seemed like Wesley, Connor, and Adam were kicking Alli off the science team. I recognized Jenna’s rival from another show/movie, but I can’t place it right now (halloween town maybe?) Let’s see, Drew’s a dog and smh at Alli for taking him back. Alli’s parents have a right to be stern but she has to grow up some time…
Clare did her thing as usual. The acting at the end was superb. I’m sure some of yall cried along with them. I’m just as excited as everyone to see what is coming up. The new ‘format’ for previewing future episodes (assuming that it continues like that) is awesome. KC minutely stepped up by handing the baby name book to Jenna. For lack of better words, Kenna is taking “baby steps” to repair their relationship. I like the fact that KC’s mom is being supportive; KC is slowly seeing reality of being a teen parent. OH BUT WAIT, Jenna was snogging (had to)with Sav? A love… RHOMBUS with Declan, Holly J, Sav, and Jenna?! Damn, I wish every Friday there were one hour episodes…
Do I have anything else to add… DAWN! less than 3!!! It sucks that Best Years’ last season was rushed and you weren’t apart of it.
I think I’m done.
NOPE.
@Kary= Gigantic reviews plzzz. Jk.
Vegemite vitches!
I love you for saying the word snogging. I think this comment just made my day. :P
I hope this works… if so enjoy the epic promo.
It didn’t sigh…
this episode was really good!! damn this rest of season 10 seems likes its gna super intense..THIS should of been the boiling point..omg..i almost crapped my pants with the preview..especially when jenna kissed sav, clare asked eli to spend hte night together and jenna going into labor in the limo!!!!!!!!
on another note, am i the only one that was kind of sad that peter is off the show probably for good now..i was kind of hoping that chantay left instead..oh well i guess he was useless for the show now….SORRY FOR MY LONG RANT!
I’m on a roll right now.
Oh yeah hey Merari, that wasn’t a rant at all (see my novel above). Chantay is like Ryan Reynolds’s character from National Lampoon’s van wilder in the fact that they NEVER want to leave school.
lol!! i read yours! haha i know..stupid chantay!! i want her to get the hell out!!
AMEN. i loved Peter too. im sooooo sad he is off the show, even tho he wasn’t really doing anything.
& i love this Gigantic show already and it hasn’t even been on for 30 minutes. This Vanessa chick is such a bitch,she’s like 07 Holly J lol
i could tell since the very first promo pics that they released that she was gonna be the bitch lol. She just has that devilishly evil look. Im trying to watch gigantic rite now but its not that interesting
Streaming link??
So, I’m not the only one who cried, right?
…Or kinda screamed when the next promo showed…?
OHMYGOSH JENNA AND SAV?!?!
omg.. i screamed so loud when clar asked eli to spend the night together..haha my sister got mad!!!!
I cried too. Alli is the best character on the show I know she has to come back but I just felt bad for her. And Jenna and Sav?! I just wonder how the heck did that come about. Like what could Sav see in Jenna to make him wanna KISS her.
EVERYONE IS FREAKING ABOUT JENNA AND SAV. BUT, Isn’t it interesting the clips with Anya on a date with Wesley!??!?! Like come on haha it’s a little ridiculous. And the fact we’re left wondering if Adam or Drew will get Fiona, the obvious choice would be Drew cause Fiona might be able to tell Adam is trans. However I wonder if they’ll have a twist like in the movie “Boys Don’t Cry” where Fiona falls for Adam regardless what’s going on down there.
Remember Anya bought the date with Wesley in the bachelor auction?
I could see Fiona ending up being pretty flexible about the situation. I hope so, cause that’d be an interesting place for them to go.
come on we all know adams gonna win just becuz its more interesting plus those 2 were in a pic together and stephan stohn tweeted there was a reason why those 2 were in that pic together and i didnt see drew in a pic with her
Lol wow the twitter reviews of Gigantic have been like its okay(which is surprise considering everyone trashing on this show ALL MONTH!!!) and it could be something to watch until the next showing of Degrassi comes on lol
Also RANDOM Note: This season of Degrassi has had more parents than like the whole series to date LOL, We have seen almost EVERYONES parents in one season (we even seen wesley’s uncle who is a teacher :P)
sav likes pregnant chicks. when anya said she was pregnant he got back with her. just sayinnnn d:
cant wait for next week(:
LOLLLLLLLL.
THE PROMOS ARE SO GOOD!
Except Jenna and Sav is the most random, uncomprehendable pairing in the whole Degrassi universe. They seem to be pairing up people because they have no where else to go sometimes…however, I’m still extremely excited, even if I don’t agree with the storylines!
omg so glad it’s back. now jenna and sav?? wtf?? sav, you’re going to be mad holly j slept with declan so you’ll hook up with the pregnant one? and what are they doing in a limo? ick. i love that drew and adam are both going to go after fiona. and bye alli, we all knew she was leaving. it’s funny how drew’ll move on so fast.
anyone feel bad for holly j? this is the second time in a year’s time that a niner (i dont care if they’re in grade 10 now, they’re still niners [: ) has kissed/crushed on/tried to steal her boyfriend. lol.
and i am FREAKING OUT about fiona and adam/drew. im hoping and betting that she goes for adam. (partly because adam’s just that awesome of course, and partly because drew totally doesnt seem like her type. adam’s so much nicer, as everyone obvioulsy knows.) oh, and people who are saying that annie should be able to tell that adam’s trans? i thought it was implied that the whole school knew now? since mbiac?
and one last thing: looks like clare’s rebelling in ALL aspects. so i guess its pretty much confirmed that she’s rebelling against her parents, not the dress code or anything. (“won’t your parents hate that?” “definitely”) honestly, im kind of disappointed at that. it just seems so textbook, that when the kid’s parents are getting divorced, the kid rebels to keep their attention off each other. being a kid with divorced parents, and knowing a bunch of others, i’ve never actually seen that happen.
I’ll feel bad for Holly J if she actually still likes Sav when Declan comes back, which just might be the case from what I saw in the promos. But if she completely ditches him for Declan and isn’t really interested in Sav and just wants to keep using him, then not really, no.
I want her to go for Adam too. Adam needs a girlfriend. He’s too adorable to be without one. And him and Fiona would be cute.
I’ll be very disappointed if Clare’s entire personality changed just becsue she’s rebelling against her parents. I mean, all teenagers do it in some way, so it’s nice to see Clare acting like a normal kid who makes mistakes, but I don’t want her entire personality altered. It will make me lose respect for her. And yeah, the whole “I’m rebelling agains my parents because they’re getting a divorce” thing is a complete cliche, but there are already tons of those in Degrassi, so I’m not surprised.
Oops. I meant “because”. Sorry.
ack. Fiona not Annie. :)
Gigantic was the shit. I love it
I liked it too. I didn’t think I would at first, but I do. I can’t wait for next weeks episode. (after I watch my beloved degrassi.lol)
OMG! I almost peed my pants when i saw the new promo. Clare had turned naughty. lol.
Lol awesome twit pic http://yfrog.com/9dfightuj
Warning: This comment is long as fuck, and it’s also kind of random. Sorry in advance! :P I had a shitload of things to get off my chest after the shock from this episode wore off. XD
I don’t think it was one of my favorites, but it was MUCH better than I thought it would be. I was honestly very proud of the writers; I thought for sure they were going to make Jenna into Mia 2.0 and send the message that it’s okay to put your own desires before anything else. But they treated her exactly as she was – an irresponsible girl so blinded by her dreams that she pushed aside all her responsibilities. I actually thought everything was handled very well in her story – and, yes, the story made me…like Kenna just a bit. Their interactions were very natural, and it warmed my heart that K.C. was coming around just the slightest bit at the end. I liked that he didn’t just suddenly have a complete change of heart and jump back to her side – his actions were hesitant, and barely existent. In fact, it was only in his one line, “don’t choose Kevin” (or whatever it was…I forget exactly) that he hinted that he didn’t want to be like his father. But he still has a ways to go. And I’m really enjoying that.
…And I really hope I don’t get maimed by everyone for that. D: I’m really curious as to where their relationship will go from here. As long as there are no more completely awkward supposedly intimate scenes (you guys know what scenes are talking about) I think I could actually begin to ship them. As long as, of course: 1.) K.C. stops encouraging his friends to cheat on his other, better friends, and 2.) K.C. and Clare actually talk things out (preferably with Jenna there as well), so that there are no more unsaid feelings and everyone has complete closure. But what does everyone think about the promo? My first instinct was that Jenna was returning to her old “boyfriend stealing” ways and going for Holly J’s boyfriend this time. But…It doesn’t seem to fit with how her character is going now. Maybe Sav just showed her some kindness, and in a moment of desperation, she tries to make a move on him? Goddammit, writers, stop trying to convince me of Jenna’s heterosexuality! I will never believe you!! It actually looks like they might be getting really close, since he’s apparently with her when she goes into labor?? XD I can’t help shaking the feeling, though, that he’s only with her to make Holly J jealous. :/ Maybe she chooses Declan and he just races to the first available girl, who, sadly, is a very vulnerable Jenna? *shakes* idek anymore XD
Now, as for Alli’s arc…She kind of frustrated me here. Although I understand why she would be so conflicted and confused, obviously, I kept wanting to scream to her to 1.) NOT take Drew back, and 2.) Just leave Bianca alone. But I must admit, that cat fight kind of made my life hahaha. XD I was glad that, in the end, SHE was the one to make the decision to leave. It makes me think that she’s really going to go through some character development – and the Alli who we see later in the series might be mature enough to have a relationship but not let the guy influence her every action.
I have to admit, though, that I was a bit disappointed in how she threw Drew away like that – true, he cheated on her, and she had every right to ignore him in the beginning. But after she took him back and made him think things were really alright, it seemed cruel to me to just get rid of him like that…Especially in such a cold way. But Drew and Alli have both made a lot of mistakes. Hopefully Alli will mature in her new school, and Drew will mature in his regret – so that when they meet again, it’ll be as true, mature young adults. And they’ll be able to deal with any lingering feelings as such. Maybe then I’d actually be interested in Drew/Alli, which honestly never interested me at all. But we’ll see what happens! I can’t wait to see Alli again, strangely enough, though she often annoyed me in the past. I guess I can’t wait to see more Mature!Alli. :)
Other random notes:
-I thought it was weird to see Adam in the science club. It just doesn’t fit my image of him at all XD I don’t see him as stupid, just uninterested in school and certainly not interested in spending extra time outside of school competing in academic contests…ESPECIALLY for science, which is as nerdy as it gets. :P But I guess Adam likes to read his chemistry textbook while waiting for the next issue of The Goon. Between his new-found love of science and his random admittance into Grade 11 Advanced English, should we assume that he’s also a part of the Gifted Program? lol
-Wesley and Connor kind of made my life when they took out their phones to record the fight. Just sayin’.
-It did kind of break my heart that Connor and Alli barely acted like they knew each other, though. In fact, Connor seemed to have no idea that Alli is so smart. *sigh* My dream of the Connor/K.C./Alli/Clare friendship one day reforming seems completely impossible. :(
-I kind of shipped Alli/Adam in this episode. Am I the only one? XD I know it’s weird, especially since I always write about Adam disliking Alli in my fics. (nothing personal against her! I just thought that she wouldn’t understand what it means to be transgender, and it would annoy him) But I actually thought they were kind of cute in the episode. XD Random, I know. Just…throwing it out there, in case anyone agrees! XD;
Now. More thoughts about the promo:
-It looks like Drew and Adam are going to get into that fight about a girl. Which is all kinds of silly to me, but I guess is very typical of siblings. But they’d better have an epic guys’ night once they make up, or else. XD And Adam had better win – because Adam/Fiona is win. Drew/Fiona? Not so much. :/
-It does look like Clare might really be questioning her religion and waiting until marriage. I really hope Eli turns her down. Clare deserves a chance to question her faith – all people do at some point, after all – but what kind of message is it sending to the fans if EVERY girl on the show has to lose her virginity in high school? No matter what you think of her, you can’t argue that Clare has always highly regarded her morals. It’s natural for her to question them in a crisis – but for her to completely throw them away? That’s just not Clare. At all. Also, am I the only one who thought she was talking to Adam when they first saw the promo? I actually SCREAMED I was so shocked – and then youtube’d it and went, “oh lol it’s just Eli…Oops.” My dreams of a Misfit threesome have been crushed again. :( /kidding. Sorta
-Seeing Adam and Clare standing next to each other in the promo made me really happy. It’s nice to see they’re still friends. Dear writers, you’ve pushed Adam/Eli on us to the extent that it could almost be called canon. And I don’t even have to MENTION Clare/Eli. Just…can Adam/Clare interact more? And can they discuss things BESIDES Eli? Please?
Next week can’t come fast enough arrrgh.
idk i like that adam was in the science club. it gives him a chance to interact with new people
Yeah, I definitely agree that it’s good for him to interact with other people…But I still wouldn’t have expected him to do so through the science club. xD The comic book club/movie club/video game club/SOMETHING like that sounds more like him, to me, than the science club. But oh well XD
i had the exact same feeling as you when i saw adam and alli.. i kind of htought he was flirting wiht her when he was telling her that she is as cool as drew says..or at least his attempt to flirt
haha…well he was pretty good at flirting with Bianca, at least. ;) But yeah, I definitely got that vibe! And I’m glad I’m not alone haha
Darn I was wrong about the “I’m leaving Degrassi” part. I swore it was Leia, but I’ll completely own up to the fact that I was wrong. I still say in the promo it sounded like Leia, and if Leia ever has a line like that I called it! LoL But I doubt she will because she’s out of the opening credits now (and the actress who plays her is off in college).
And speaking of the credits, I’m incredibly excited that Zane is a part of them now, I love him!! <3
did anyone else think the cat fight between alli and bianca looked REALLY SIMILAR to the cat fight between alli and holly j in the early teenick promo last year? because the way they shot it, with it kinda looking like a bunch of clips, and the way that alli kinda knocked all the stuff off the desk, it looked WICKED SIMILAR <—sorry about "wicked". new england slang :)
personally it reminded me of the Manny/ PAige fight in season 4 i think
I thought it was way more intense than their fight. They slapped eachother and pulled hair. Alli and Bianca threw things, punched eachother, pushed, etc. Their fight was priceless.lmao
ADAM/FIONA IS FUCKING AMAZING I CAN’T WAIT AND JENNA NEEDS TO FUCKING GO AWAY UGH
SEE WHY WE ALL HATE JENNA??? CUZ SHE RUINS EVERYBODYS RELATIONSHIP LITTLE BITCH ASS SLUT SHE NEEDS TO GO TO HELL BUT HOLLY J’S NOT TAKING THAT SHIT YEA THAT RITE SHE DOSENT NO WHO SHES DEALING WITH
i didn’t pay attn to the theme song earlier lol and had to rewatch now to see the changes. where is fitz? i think the last episode peter was in was when holly j and sav were planning the dance and he was such a weirdo/creep. like when he was questioning holly j about sav, it bugged me. so bye peter. lol.
Can someone post the link to the promo for next week?
Poor Declan. I really feel sorry for him. The first girl he’s ever actually in love with and she breaks his heart. He’ll probably just go back to being the player he used to be. :( Although, Player!Declan was pretty amusing, so it might not be all bad.
I mean, Sav/ Holly J isn’t as bad a pairing as I thought it would be, but I still like Declan/Holly J better. It’s just that if Holly J ends up dumping Sav and goes back to Declan, which I doubt based off of the promo, then I wouldn’t really feel as sorry for him as I would for Declan. Mostly because his thing with Holly J was just supposed to be a fling, and it doesn’t seem as if he’s in love with her, although I’m sure he has genuine feelings for her. Whereas Declan may be more devastated because I think that he actually might be in love with her.
The Eli/Clare drama looks…interesting. I’m excited for it. I like seeing Clare with a wild side, I just don’t want to see her change her whole personality. That’ll bug me.
Thanks for the post. I’m mostly excited for the eclare moments. I know people are starting to get annoyed with them, but I’m not (well not yet anyway). I hope Sav and Holly J stay together. Declan is getting on my nerves.
Wesley and Connor are officially awesome. love the way they took out their phones to record the fight.
-Wesley: That’s a boob….
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
The “boob” line was my favorite! XD
kay, this is reallynrandom but remember the season 9 promos where holly j and spinner were making out on the copy machine; what ever happened to that? ahahahhaa. Again (random)
um…..wait! why adam adam dressed as a girl @ the top of the page???!!!
hahha omg i just noticed that at the exact same time you did!! and was thinking the same thing. and this is on the degrassi fbk page…
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs737.snc4/65777_447229109118_54557829118_5092022_2704694_n.jpg
like we know jordan’s a girl but her character is a boy…i don’t get it….
ooops same pic. lol. but yeah WEIRD.
jordan is a girl playing as a transgender. so basically her characters a girl, that wants to be a guy. the characters real name is gracie, but goes by adam.
get it?
thats because whoever is is the admin of the Facebook page is uncreative & basically a copier…..
If you look at the bottom of the picture in the description (on facebook) it says the actresses name. Not Adam. It’s not supposed to be a picture of Adam.
@Leah…
“so basically her characters a girl, that wants to be a guy.”
Actually, I’m pretty sure that with transgendered people, it’s not a question of WANTING to be the opposite sex/gender. They feel that they ARE the opposite sex/gender and that they were just born in the wrong body.
As the character has said, Adam is already a dude between the ears. He “wants” (the character would probably describe it as a “need”, actually) to legally and medically transition so that his body matches his mind.
What’s the song from the promo? I like it. :)
the whole anya and wesley thing…i think they’re on their date and wesley is fantasizing. lol. cuz her scene in the bikini has that “blurry” effect like when people have dreams. ex:they did the same effect with JT’s wet dream with liberty scene
Wow.
Uhm, I’m gonna be just a little mad at Drew for liking Fiona, haha, because even though Alli kinda just broke up with Drew, I still want them together! Lol.
Andd, I don’t really like the whole Adam and Fiona thing. To me, they just don’t click.
Woahh, Clare. She’s going a BIT far with trying to impress Eli. But, I like that they are going to make her character do something that drastic.
Let’s see, Jenna and .. Sav?! Ew, just..ew.
Oh yeah, Wesley and Anya? Lmao. I think when we see her in the bikini, that’s just Wesley fantasizing. ;D
And I am glad that Declan is coming back, but sad that Holly J doesn’t really want anything to do with him. :P
And I know that it’s not really something to laugh at, but at that last scene where Jenna is having a contraction, or the baby, or whatever, I just had to laugh at that scream… xD
How do you know Adam and Fiona don’t click lol?
There hasn’t been an episode of them interacting yet >.<
Uhm, what I meant was I don’t like them together? And that it’s just an odd couple, that seems like they just picked out of a hat? And that their personalities (to me) don’t really go? So yeahh..
“?” those go after questions.
Everyone called Adam/Fiona! But wow, Drew/Fiona too? Jeez, Drew. Alli’s been gone for an episode and you’ll already be moving on to the next one. XD I’m happy they’re doing Adam/Fiona, although when I watched last night’s episode I thought for sure they were gonna take the Adam/Alli route, so I was happy when it turned out to be a false alarm.
Sav/Jenna WTH?
Oh, Wesley/Anya. I kind of want them to actually get together. Is that awful? XD
LOL at Jenna’s scream.
Oh boy, Clare. I knew your virginity would be an issue later. They made such a point of emphasizing it.
I didnt care too much about this episode because i really just wanted to see Eli and Clare, but i was sad to see that Ali left Degrassi =/ and part of me wanted K.C. to grow up and accept that Jenna is having the baby…i really wanted to see them work things out…maybe in the future?
OMG! The promo for next weeks episode looks sooooooo SHOCKING! Eli and Clare matching peircings, sleepovers…sounds scandalous?! And Fiona/Adam/Drew….love triangle, love it! i kinda want to see Adam get the girl =) I’ve seen enough of Drew and he’s starting to turn me off because he’s a player. Jenna and Sav? WTF? Did not see this coming! Not gonna last…why would Sav want to start a relationship with a pregnant 15 year old? He’s too good for her. And Holly and Declan, so not gonna last! I used to love Dec, but after the whole trying to buy Holly J’s love, he’s become one of my least favorite characters. No way Holly is gonna take him back! Basically, i’m just wondering if Eli and Clare are going to have sex because lots of promos are showing her upset. So i wonder if they do, and then she regrets it afterwards and has a breakdown? I guess thats the million dollar question? Will Clare put her abstinence ring aside and get caught up in the moment?
So, I mostly agree with B8.
Except for the Fiona and Drew thing, and the Eli/Clare/Adam love triangle. Lol.
First off, I just wanna say that I think they’re should just be one normal stable new girl so that Adam can actually have a nice girlfriend. Haha. :D
Anyways. In Friday’s episode, I just had a feeling that Alli and Adam were going to eventually get together, but they didn’t, thank goodness.
And Drew going after Fiona? It will make for good episodes, but that’s a very douche-baggish move. He’s saying how much he loves Alli, and then not even a week later is checking out Fiona? Not cool. ;P
Also, Jenna and Sav, and Fiona and Adam, are the most RANDOM couples I think Degrassi will ever have. And I don’t like those couples…
One more thing, I thought that in Friday’s episode we were gonna see some foreshadowing of KC going for Clare again, just because of the fact that he wasn’t supporting Jenna too much, and that Eli was on suspension, but they didn’t. I’m happy and sad about that both because I really like Clare and Eli, but it would have made a good couple of episodes.
I think that’s all. I’m pretty excited for this next episode!(:
i love that look adam has on his face after they show fiona. i really don’t know what i think about them lol but i just like his look. and ugh drew.
I don’t get what Claire means by matching piercings? ear piercings? O.O…?
I think it would be sooooooooooOOoO CUTE if Fiona and Adam get together because it would be like the schools Pretty Daddy’s girl and the schools “odd one out” getting together <3 I wanna see a Adona or Fiodam LOLL XD
yeahhh… Jenna is gross and I think Sav is kinda not even cute enough for her and Holly to be fighting over him… he deserves to be alone in my opinion :/
Things I’m excited for:
Clare and Eli
Westley and Anya
Fionia, drew, and Adam love triangle
Jenna and Sav
Things I’m not excited for:
Fiona and Adam :/
Like seriously? They are just picking names out of an hat to see who’s good together.
I WANT TO SEE CLARE/ADAM/ELI LOVE TRIANGLE. :)
I think Fiona and Adam would be good together, I love them both, but we must admit they are both pretty unstable. Fiona has been treated badly by a lot of guys so I could see her being into girls, or Adam for that matter.
thank god im not alone on this..i hate the thought of having fiona and adam together..its jsut weird.. i dont really think fiona will be to great to adam..he deserves better..ID much Rather watch an eli/clare/adam traingale..it would be way more intresting.
o wow i cried :(
That last scene with Alli and Clare was really sad, but I still can’t get over how stupid Alli is sometimes. “I’m just gonna trash Bianca’s reputation…I bet no consequences are gonna happen.” And then she blames it all on boys and takes off…I mean really Alli? Jenna’s storyline left me pretty uninterested and just seemed to reiterate the fact that K.C. is a douche and Jenna was mad. However I did enjoy that she lost which I honestly didn’t expect which obviously screws all of her plans.
I may or may not have more to say about this episode later, but I just want to take the moment to express my extreme gratitude to the writers for keeping the Next Teen Star storyline mercifully short and sweet.
Also, kudos to you tackling the ridiculousness of American Idol contestants pimping their personal tragedies for votes. That was AWESOME.
So um, where did Peter go? WHO WILL BE SLINGING HASH AT THE DOT?? (Also did anyone else think it was stupid when Holly J took a waitressing job somewhere else?)
I thought Part 1 was really lame and Part 2 was pretty good. But all the action really seemed unevenly piled into the second half. I’m mostly glad of the way they handled Jenna’s storyline (although, I’m sorry if she could never have an A-plot again, that’d be awesome). But I wish too they had shown her getting some negative feedback for being pregnant. Honestly, it’s the internet, there’s no way there weren’t people berating her for being 15 and pregnant. But I love KC’s mom best of all the parents on this show (aside from like, Spike, or Joey), so yay for her being back and being awesome.
Alli’s storyline seemed a little unbelievable in that, if her file is so big, weren’t her parents called in a hell of a lot sooner? Particularly for the sexting incident. And when her dad was all like, “Where did we go wrong?” I wanted to be like, “By repressing your children so hard, jerkface!” My best friend had the same situation, where her mother repressed her so badly then she exploded in high school, and entirely involving boys. That last scene with Alli & Clare was so good, and I’m glad this episode brought their friendship back to the forefront.
I don’t know what this Sav/Jenna business is about, but DO NOT WANT. I like the idea of Drew & Adam vying for Fiona, but I really hope she goes for Adam. I could see her being… flexible, which would be something else they haven’t covered yet.
I’m really conflicted on the Clare situation. On the one hand, it’d be nice to have someone actually stick to their guns about their virginity (although you could make the case that Darcy did, despite the one-off with Peter post-rape), but on the other hand, I personally think that not having sex before marriage is a really bad idea for a lot of reasons and I think Clare is smarter than that, so I do want her to change her mind. Besides, they haven’t had a storyline where someone outgrew their religion, which is a very real thing, so I think that’d be an interesting place to go with Clare.
AND now I’m done.
Well I agree on most…except her file. the whole point to that little plot device was Alli was forging her parents signature on everything that’s why they hadn’t gotten called in sooner.
I disagree. I want to see at least one girl in Degrassi keep their virginity, at least in high school.
I agree with Caroline. Clare should keep her virginity.
Ellie actually stayed a virgin thu high school, and im pretty sure that jimmy did 2
I second Ellie, didn’t lose her virginity till college. And um, Hazel? Maybe? But truthfully it’s just not entirely realistic to be in a serious relationship in high school and not have sex. I was always rather surprised that Ellie & Sean didn’t bone while they were living together.
Also I still think you can make a case for Darcy being extenuating circumstances.
Also there are still characters who could fall into that category: Chantay… oh, maybe just Chantay. But also, not losing your virginity isn’t that big a story. Maybe that’s why she gets no plotlines.
Also, Leia! Pretty sure that girl didn’t get ANY.
@Emma Chantay lost her virginity, in the season 8 ep where HJ thinks she is the lone one out. but I doubt it.
i no i feel the same way 2 guys but eli and clare r just so good together it almost makes me change my mind….. ugh damnit the 1 girl that might actually keep it has to fall in love with the hottest character degrassi has had yet (gives bland look) just damnit
@degrassilova55 jimmy kinda had no choice….
I agree with everything except Clare losing her virginity, they haven’t had a storyline where someone outgrew their religion because none of the characters have really been religious (that I can remember). I am not digging her hair or clothes in the promo either, makes her look fat :/ and pale. I like her short curly hair and her good girl clothes <3
Oh definitely. I’m really hoping she’s just dressed that way as a rebellion against the uniforms.
Why is not having sex before marriage a bad idea? I don’t think it’s a bad choice. And there are ways for someone to outgrow their religion without losing their virginity.
Personally, I’m mostly indifferent on whether or not I think it’s a good idea for Clare to sleep with Eli. I like them together, but I don’t really care as much about that aspect of their relationship. I think she should get to know him better. I like Eli, but I wouldn’t sleep with a guy if I’d only know him for a few months, especially not in high school, where even most “serious” relationships last only a year at best.
If Clare does sleep with Eli, I really hope that they have it so that she doesn’t regret it afterwards and that she doesn’t get some kind of STD or pregnancy from it. It feels like they make teenage sex out to be wrong by having all these kids “pay the consequences” for it, and I don’t think that just becasue you have sex in high school you’re stupid. It’s not wrong.
If Clare doesn’t sleep with Eli, I’d like it to be because of her faith. Not because I necessarily agree with it, but just because it shows strength of character to stick with her beliefs. If Clare’s doing it just because her parents are having marriage issues, then I don’t think that’s too great. Just because her parents go through a divorce, Clare shouldn’t let their hypocrisy dictate her own beliefs. It doesn’t mean I think that her beliefs couldn’t change, but they shouldn’t change because of what her parents are doing. Losing your faith isn’t a bad thing, but it can be when you’re letting it go because of someone else.
I hope Fiona ends up with Drew not Adam. Adam can go date Chante or something.
lmfao i hate chante.
oh hell no! Adam is WAY too good for Chantay.
hell no! Adam deserves better, i think him and Fiona would be cute together. and they’re both sort of damaged, they’d help each other
My thoughts exactly! I think John is just trolling /:
wooo…i think this season will be better. yeah they have more rules but like the promo says, just more ways to break them. which means more drama!!
looks to me like sav and jenna were makin out in the limo which caused her to go into premature labor
and looks like declan kinda forces holly j to have sex!!! O_O
also i think eli likes the good claire better cause once she goes bad he kinda acts strange. or maybe something else is on his mind??
oh yeah and adam and fionia would be cute together. i know adams really a girl but still..
Kary, nice jacket.
YES SAV, GO TO JENNA SO HOLLY J CAN GO BACK TO DECLAN
The episode was so amazing.I had my eyes glued to the screen for like the whole entire episode.Jenna’s plot was better than i thought it was going to be because i thought it was going to be just another teenaged mother who joins a competition wins then lives hapilly ever after but nah she actually lost and KC and his mother are their to support her.Alli’s plot was amazing at times she made me frustrated like when she took drew back but then at other times like her sentimental moment with clare and when she was explaining to her mother about hre diary she made me want to cry.Because her and clare has been thru a lot and they stuck together no matter what.When i saw the part that she made the decision to leave degrassi i was like go Alli.She is a great character but she has a lot to learn about life and her parents need to let her grow up.
GOSH!!! jeNNA AND SAV THAT’S A SHOCKER 4 YAA..
cLARE-ELI “I WANNA SPEND THE NIGHT WITH YOU”-OR WHATEVER SHE SAID.—GOD DAH SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME.
ADAM-DREW-FIONA-wOW A THREESOME I HOPE SHE GOES WITH ADAM THOUGH CUZZ WELL IDK I JUST LIKE HER BETTER WITH HIM.
ANYA-WESLEY-WHAT IS GOING ON THERE?
AND MANY MORE THIS IS A SEASON THAT CANNOT BE MISSED BRODIEE WELL I COULD GO ON AND ONE BUT MY FINGERS HURT SO I’M OUTIEE.
They shouldnt’ve kicked Peter off the show, just sayin…
i agree with kicking him out. after he and mian broke up he’s just had little stupid storylines and just was a waste of space. He said like, what?, two lines in the whole boiling point. So im glad they got rid of him and repaced him with more people like zane.
I agree all I wanted is him and Fiona to get together.
Or Darcy comes back.
PARCY is still my favorite Degrassi couple. <3
I miss Spinner :/
i dont understand how emma and spinner disappear after the degrassi takes manahattan. I thought they would have minor roles since spinner works at the Dot/is like a manager and Emma got the job (assuming she still kept it after the fire incident)….Plus they made a big deal about Emma moving BACK to the town like she was gonna pop up here and there. I wish she would. It would be weird seeing her interract with the high school students, but I could see her as some kind of interest group/mentor leader as a non profit, volunteer type role to help the students at degrassi. Kinda like an unpaid mini teacher or counselor. Of course i dont see her as a real student teach like Marco, since she didnt finish school or showed any interest n going to school for teaching…but she coulda done something.
@Marisa They just got married, so they are both adjusting to the “married life.” I’m sure they’ll have some lines in future episodes.
Amen. It’s not the same without him.
Peter serves no purpose.
Unlike Spinner, who could pull off hanging around high school and bone younger girls way beyond his expiration date.
I don’t think he’s necessarily got “kicked off” I think he got demoted to recurring status perhaps? I have a weird feeling and I think it would making an interesting plot for Peter to come back and stir the pot with Riley and Zane’s relationship, it would be an unexpected and interesting plot twist IMO.
OMG! i saw it last night! Bianca vs. Alli! DING DING!!
by the way everyone, we now have proof that adam is indeed in grade 10, cause he’s wearing a purple shirt. whoever runs the character twitter who said adam was in grade 11 needs to get their facts straight >:(
He IS in grade 11.
nuh uh he’s in grade 10
ckuss he’s wearing purple
and grade 11 wear’z red.
he’s in grade 10 but has some grade 11 classes, like Clare. I think hes in advanced science and english.
Yellow=freshmen
purple=sophomore
red=junior
blue=senior
Those promos were pretty interesting. I’m really excited to see Clare’s rebellious side (although I hope she doesn’t give herself up to Eli/lose her faith because her parents are divorcing). And don’t hate me for saying this, but I hope that Holly J and Declan don’t get back together. I never really liked them together and I actually like her better with Sav (as crazy as that sounds).
And wow, it seems like Degrassi’s going for random pairings this season. First it was Spinner/Emma, and now it’s Sav/Jenna? Really? Am I the only person who DOESN’T want Adam and Fiona to end up together? I probably am.
I like the idea of Adam/Fiona, although it is a bit random. However, I think it has tons more potential than Spinner/Emma, which made no sense, or Sav/Jenna, which makes even less sense. Unlike those two, I could actually see myself taking Adam/Fiona seriously. Don’t ask me why.
I agree with you about Clare. I’m curious though. Why do you prefer Sav/Holly J? Just wondering.
nope! you’re not hte only one! i cant bare the thought of adam and fifi together!
I think out of the random pairings Sav and Jenna make the most sense on paper. I don’t recall them ever having a plot together, but they at least have similar interests unlike the others. As far as Adam and Fiona, I find it a little less believable. But who knows how it will unfold so maybe it will make more sense later on :P
so is there no more C-plots
I enjoyed the first two episodes back. They were much better then i thought they were going to be. I was thinking they would be more like fillers somewhat setting up the rest of the season, but I was pleasently suprised. Bianca/Alli catfirght was pretty epic. I liked the whole slight Kenna repairing their relationship little by little, it’s believable and realistic. I mean K.C. isn’t a completly cold hearted bastard. I do agree Adam and science club was slightly bizarre, but in a good sort of way(?) and I noticed the Alli/Adam slight flirtations, maybe it wasn’t really meant, but happened? I think it is slightly weird that Connor was kind of ignor-ish with Alli, I they were all friends at one point. I was annoyed when Alli took Drew back, but I liked that she seemed to realize that she needs to grow up a bit. The end scene between Alli and Clare was sweet and really showcased their friendship. I was think about where Jenna was though. In the Boiling Point her and Alli seemed like good friends, seeing as Alli was supporting Jenna, but here Jenna wasn’t there at all and didn’t say goodbye was strange and slightly disapointing. It would have been nice to see at least a small goodbye between the two before the Alli and Clare scene.
As for the promos the rest of this season looks like it is going to be good. I think it will have a lot of Clare, Holly J./Declan/Sav/Jenna(? could that have been anymore random), and Adam/Fiona/Drew. The love triangle seems interesting because people thought of Adam/Fiona in fanfictions and now it could be possible is pretty awesome. I feel like Fiona is leaning towards Drew based on the promo, but there is always hope. Also that love square/rhombus/whatever kind of scares me a bit. Based on the characters in it, the out come can be super destructive and change a lot of things. Now about Clare, the rebellion thing is cliche but the new rules I could see anyone wanting to go against them, but it seems it is more just a cry for attention. Maybe she figures that if she distracts her parents attention to her that they won’t concentrate on their marrige problems. I’m
I the only would that tampered with the thought of Clare returning to her Season 8 ways? I was thinking about her going back to her uniform loving ways. I thought that would be interesting that CLare thinks maybe if she goes back to the way things were pre-Darcy rape/pre-Darcy leaving everything will go completly back to the way it was. It would be diffrent from the “I want attention” rebellion Clare is seeming to fall into.
degrassi is amazing nuff said
im sorry but i HAVE to say this: can you people at least TRY to spell the names of the characters right? ex: Claire is spelled w/ a E at the end and Alli has no E at the end. thank you
it just really makes me mad so sorry to spam i guess
dude . . . YOU just spelled CLARE wrong.
lmaoooo smooooooth. Don’t talk the talk unless you can walk the walk.
if there were still thumbs i would thumbs up that. XD
ummmmmm CLAIRE is spelled either way. look it up. I was adressing the ppl that were spelling claire as clar
thankyou very much
well you can also spell ALLI with an E ! just saying
well it doesn’t look right just sayin!
Hypocrite. You CAN spell Alli as “Allie” OR “Ally.” But people DON’T because SHE spells her name like “Alli.” Likewise, just because “Clare” CAN be spelled “Claire” doesn’t mean SHE spells it that way. If you’re going to be a bitch to people for spelling Alli incorrectly, then you’d better start spelling Clare correctly yourself.
umm wtf?? u cant even get the spelling right its spelled CLARE not CLAIR
didn’t I just say its either CLARE or CLAIRE not clar?
agreed. :)
Ok so let’s relate the song don’t let me get me to the episode. I think the lyrics go great with the episode they did a good job.
they do! it was focusing on Ali and she really let her mind get her. She has this fantasy of the perfect high school year: being popular, having a boyfriend, clean reputation, parents don’t know of her school life, etc. and by trying to protect all she has, she ruins it by starting one fight that wasnt even necessary. Bianca’s a slut and everyone knows it. She had one little rumor and more ppl doubted it (“Ali is it really true?”) anyways.
Its like she tries so hard for things, and cant win with herself. When i first heard the episode name, I honestly though the episode was going to be about Adam because of the obvious…but Im glad the writers didnt do the obvious. They picked the every day normal teenage girl and showed how much of a hazard they are to themselves.
SOOOOOO many girls give in to boys, forgive them when they shouldnt be forgiven, participaite in sexting, hide things from their parents, want to be popular, etc. I can count on my hand so many girls from high school, even me, who have Ali in them. And it can even be the sweet little quiet girl that doesnt get into the main school drama, but they still have their “Ali” ways. Degrassi’s character developments have gotten so much better and I love it.
^ THUMBS UP
Agreed and part of the song could also relate to jenna too.
I thought Claire was a tranny at first.
Ali’s parent’s reactions when they found wnat “sexting” meant was so heartbreaking.
Yea it was especially the mom’s reaction
the mom finally got to say more than 2 words in this episode lol but the mom and Alli’s acting was so great and so was Clare’s
“I do not know my own daughterr”-I think she said.
That part was mesmerizing to me because i could relate to it.
Good two episodes. These made me like Alli again. Her behavior has finally caught up with her. It’s been a long time coming! If you think about it, they’ve been building up to this for 3 seasons, technically (since season 10 is really 2 seasons worth of episodes). I think that the cover being blown on her double life has been handled better than Manny’s was. The fact that we saw more of Alli’s parents really heightened the tension and drama, whereas when Manny revealed that she was pregnant, she only told her mother, who just seemed more shocked than disappointed and heartbroken. I’m assuming that Manny’s dad never found out about her abortion, as he seems like the type who would have brought it up in the Venus episodes.
Personally, I think that Alli’s a little brighter than Manny. Manny’s intentions were always good, but she was notorious for screwing up. She never really set out to solve her problems, she just went with the flow. Alli took a stand here. She knew what the problem was, and made a responsible, difficult decision to solve it. She really shined here. I went to an all-girl highschool, as well! Not because I was out of control, but just because my mom figured it’d be a more stable environment.
And for me, Alli’s behavior, even when it got on my nerves, always felt genuine. Manny did a 180 so quickly in season 3, and as a result, her out of control behavior felt really tacked-on (though I guess that’s how it is with a lot of girls, huh?) and insincere. Would someone who was so sweet and demure turn into a ballsy sex kitten so quickly? Alli’s behavior was always a little wild, but never reached stereotypical, formulaic, Manny-esque proportions (buys a thong, check…goes to school without any underwear on, check…fallout with best friend over her behavior, check). The writers knew how to keep Alli from turning into a total caricature, and more of a character.
Bringing out Alli’s file was also a smart move on the writers’ parts. The fact that we were being reminded of stuff from as far back as season 8 made Alli’s fall from grace that much more intense. This wasn’t some quick little dalliance with wild behavior. This has been building up for a LONG time, which again, makes Alli’s development seem deeper and more sincere than Manny’s.
Don’t get me wrong, I like Manny. However, I think that Alli’s had richer development, because we’ve seen how her behavior affects not just her, but those around her, and how their reactions in turn affect her. She feels more real to me than Manny.
Also, when Alli said, “Daddy, please don’t be mad at me!” or whatever, I choked up a little…could be my PMS, though.
I totally agree and im still hoping when Alli comes back she and Dave start going out.
Good analysis.
I loved this episode!! It was a wonderful start for a new season. Man, that catfight was awesome!!! Too bad Alli left. I’m gonna miss her. But I do have to say her parents didn’t get that angry. They stayed pretty calm. They looked really pissed, but they didn’t yell. It was pretty good because those are the parents that really make children feel like dirt…
The “silent” anger is the absolute worst. Trust me on that.
a lot of indian parents r like that, they don’t yell. The calm, cold shoulder is worse than yelling. the disappointment was just written all over their face, and the words were so great. She was like “please still love me” and the whole “i don’t know my own daughter”. They fact they didnt scream and said so little was so effective in us seeing the emotion. Whoever plays the mom is a great actress, her body language and facial expressions got to me so much. I’m like damn…what If that was MY daughter.
And think about their culture…Alli is “tainted”. shes “dirty”. I wish they’d have her in an arranged marraige too so that would have been brought up. In their culture a pure woman is a BIG deal.
I agree. My grandma gives me the same looks whenever I do something bad. I think America should be a little more like India in that way. Too many girls nowadays do exactly what Alli did. I live in a small town where there’s like only maybe 50 kinds in my high school and I think only 5 out of that are virgins. It’s really sad. I wish more girls had the values that my grandparents taught me. I’m pretty lucky to be one of the few that get’s raised by their grandparents.
Is it just me or does Eli seem more serious this season?
Nope, it’s not just you. I totally agree.
I would be a lot more serious too if I almost got stabbed.
^^ lol agree
degrasi is to intense 4 me…………..THATS WHY I LOVE IT!!!!!!!BUT i really dont like the changes that they’re doin 2 Clare! eli iz not gonna lik her anymooooorree!;(!! AND NO HOMO….. BUT DAT NEW LOOK MAKE HER LOOK HIDEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dont turn into darcy!!!!!!
lol relax stephan stohn tweeted that the world wud go mad if they broke up so no worries u no how eli and clare r, they say they cant be with each other anymore yet they can o jeeze now that i think of it i hope there not like anya and sav…. totally annoying
Chaloka! Best name on here (aside from mine ofc). Oh lets comment! Erhem, you know what is going on with Clare’s parents and with Eli. In all honesty, it does not look bad. You should let it grow on you for a while and then make judgement.
god damn.
can you not type like a dipshit?
kthx.
Lol.What the hell is a dipshit?
Maybe he’s jhuss qoinq kraziee.
Or he’s Bipolar.
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I have a feeling there is going to be less mini Connor this half. That sucks.
i think this might literally have been the first episode where i genuinely liked alli.
Right now im a bit too buzzed to make a coherent review of this episode, but all i have to say rof now is thois:
Alli was surprisingly owning in the fight.
I know, right? I think she actually earned some respect points from me there. XD That and when she joined the science team. But then she lost them again when she went back to her usual shenanigans. :(
Wow I laughed so hard when Jenna lost andyhe camera zoomed up to her face. I also felt bad 4 her tho!
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About the Eli being serious thing… I watched the previews again, and he walks away from Clare when she says she wants to sleep over. Come on man, I know she wants to come over, but you don’t have to get yours yours.
“go about it morally” is what I’m getting at.
There are two new Much Music promos. One for Eli’s character in general and one for this Fridays episode.
(Eli) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ9a9gNt7iY&feature=player_embedded
(Episode) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocP9LXtszns
does the episode promo say “get ready for more SEX”???
why is that guys voice so creepy? lmao! but thosemade me laugh my ass off! so funny!!!
This promo is hilarious. “He’s a bad boy badass..” Wth.
LMAO Oh my God, Degrassi. This is as bad as the “WILL LOVE MAKE THE PLAYER…GIVE UP THE GAME?” promos for Declan. XD
The dramatic voice is mostly what makes it so ridiculous.
lmao! could they say “bad” and more?? HAHAHA
any****
They should include the scene when Eli tinkled in his pants.
I mean..if that doesn’t say badass, nothing will.
lol
hm…he’s the only one not in the uniform at 0:07…
omg. i found a much music promo for next friday.
http://www.youtube.com/v/SEMsjmdkdPE?version=3
Degrassi hits london (Send off for Peter,Chantay,Sav,Anya,Danny,Liberty,Hazel and Alex)
After all the events of season 10,Degrassi hits london will send off Sav,Peter,Chantay and Anya. While partying in london,Sav realises how much he misses Anya (Assuming he is no longer with Jenna/Holly j) and they hook up and have sex. They realise they are truly in love and get engaged. Peter runs into Mia who is now modeling in london. They share a passionate kiss and Peter decides he wants to move to london with her and Izzy. Chantay (FINALLY getting a good plot) runs into Danny who is vacationing in london with sister Liberty and new girlfriend…Hazel who is finally back. Chantay is at first happy to see Hazel but a catfight breaks out when she finds out she is with Danny. They give Danny an ultimatum…Choose between them. After waiting for Danny to choose they realise they are better off without him and decide to become friends again. Meanwhile,Back in canada,Jenna is struggling with her baby but is shocked when KC stops by for a visit. He decides he wants to be in the babies life but Jenna refuses to let him,As he was never there for her when she was pregnant. She ends up letting him see the baby after deciding it was whats right and they get back together and,despite their young age,discuss marriage. Alex finally returns and has finally gotten accepted into banting. There she meets up with Paige,who has returned for one last episode. The two are so happy to see each other they share a kiss and discuss how Paige is doing back at banting and if she is still stressed. Paige tries to act as though the kiss never happend but Alex wants to be with her again. After thinking on it Paige moves in with Alex and become a couple once more. The movie ends with Sav and Anya planning their marriage 4 months after the engagement,Peter and Mia finding out Mia is pregnant with another mans child,Whom she met months ago but Peter decides to help raise it and stay with Mia. Jenna and KC decide they probably should not be together due to all their drama,but want to both be amazing parents to their baby. Chantay and Hazel move back to canada and meet new guys. Liberty announces she is married…To Damien. and Danny going to a concert…Jane’s concert and flirts with her.
Of course this is NOT real. Just a little prediction i though would be fun to make up. Hope you guys though these were good ideas :) Let me know! And be brutally honest if you have to :x
Degrassi doesn’t need a sendoff for characters that people don’t care about.
Blu comes to mind..
Yeah because people dont care for classics like Sav Mia Peter and Alex. They care about total lame ass panzies like Blue!
I wouldn’t put it past Sav to hit on a knocked up girl and hope for some cheap sex.
Degrassi just needs to cut the crap and give Sav an orgy episode already. Hell, make it into a movie. It must be required in Degrassi-land that every girl wants some of Sav’s slim jim.
Clare’s evolution into the traditional Degrassi girl was expected and is disappointing at the same time.
However, the good news is Clare will wake up beside Spinner, spoon and want to get married in the season finale.
lol the spinner thing made me laugh so hard!
Why do muchmusic always get more detailed promos then teenick
I really can’t wait until friday–A week ihs such ah lonqq tyme.
omg, im dying to find out the song from the “This Fall…” promo!
i think the lyrics are, “its so easy your loves got me shaking…”
i searched on google but couldnt find anything:\
if anybody finds the song please tell me!:)
please post if you find the song!!
“so easy” by gina cutillo
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT WAY TO START THIS HALF OF THE SEASON!!! very well done degrassi cast! and OMFG FOR WHATS COMING NEXT AHHHH!!!!
I think fiona should go with adam despite his erm “Defect”. Because Drew is a man-whore and bounces back quickly from being with alli.
WTF? Jenna and sav? Apparently sav like pregnant chicks as one of you mentioned before, he kissed Mia, Anya(when she said she was preggo)and now jenna. If they don’t set the original fathers straight Sav’s gonna have to open up his own orphanage and makeout with all the mothers dropping by.
Also Declan don’t try you’ve been down that road and you really don’t wanna share Jane’s STD with Holly J do you? Stay away from holly j, rhymes. And Holly J gurl don’t touch his fudgesticks after he takes you for a gold digger? What are you??
Hope Peter isn’t gone for good. He was one of the best characters. Whether it was filming naked girls or taking meth, this guy was always interesting.
I’m feeling like maybe they only took him off because he’s not really a main character anymore, not because we’ll never see him again. They sometimes do that when a character takes on a recurring status rather than that of a regular. Obviously, Chantay and Leia were exceptions, since they were never really main characters. So maybe we’ll still see him at the Dot sometimes? Or maybe he’ll make a guest appearance later? I mean, someone’s gotta run the Dot. I could be wrong.
Chantay is still in the opening credits lol.
@Matt
I know that. That’s why I said that Chantay was an exception. She’s not a main character really, and yet she’s still credited as a regular.
Yea but Peter’s a way bigger character then Chantay. If he was still going to be in episodes this season I don’t see why they would take him out. Yet Chantay even though shes not that big of a character is still in the opening credits and in the episodes. That’s just what I’m saying.
i agree..peter is one of my all time favorite characters! not to mention his good looks!
LOL I love the new promo! Of course Fiona would be the one to make the uniforms look good :)
Just curious, I know there has been a lot of talk about this for a while because they’ve been filming together and they did a character photo shoot together on the MuchMusic website but what makes everyone think that just because Adam likes Fiona(which we can only assume right now from the new promo)that they are going to be a couple? Couldn’t it be possible that they are just good friends? If they do end up going out, even though Adam is transgendered, since he is physically a girl does that make Fiona bi?
No, it would not make fiona bisexual because adam is a boy and its not like they would be sexually active. Fiona would like adam for the boy that he is not the girl that he used to be and its not like they would be sexually active and fiona would like the idea of being in contact with adams girl parts. It could possibly make her pansexual, which means that u are sexually attracted to people because of who they are not what they are, but since she hasnt been togeather with a girl im pretty sure she is straight
Too answer your question
nah I don’t think that would make Fiona bi because Adam is a boy but that’s just how I see it.
Well actually my question was why does everyone automatically think that Fiona and Adam are going to be dating… but thanks? And who says that if they were to date that they wouldn’t be sexually active?
Well, like you said, people are assuming Adam likes Fiona because the promo intentionally makes it seem that way. But you’re right. Just because Adam ends up liking Fiona doesn’t mean that Fiona is going to like him back and that they’re going to date. But they could. I think people are mostly hoping for it, not saying that they know for sure it’s going to happen.
If what the promos are suggesting is true, and both Drew and Adam like Fiona, and if she ends up wanting to be with one of them, there’s a 50% chance of her ending up with either of them, since we don’t know how she feels about either one of them right now.
Exactly. But people have been making assumptions way before the promo even came out.
fiona/adam would be a straight relationship since adam is a boy.
but we have to take into account that adam has female anatomy, so if they get sexual, it’s safe to say fiona is attracted to female bodies, unless their relationship is purely emotional. adam may be a boy, but i know of more lesbians than straight girls who date transmen. it could go either way, though.
i personally think this works because fiona has never really shown much attraction to (cis) guys. she definitely wasn’t really that into doing things with bobby. maybe she isn’t into male anatomy.
If Fiona put on a hat and said she was a boy and started dating Holly J I wouldn’t consider that a straight relationship because Fiona said she was a boy. That’s just an example. What if Adam started to feel/realize that he likes being a girl and went back to being Gracie then all of a sudden their relationship would be considered gay? I’m not trying to be mean at all I’m just looking at this through a different perspective.
I like your icon. :)
im sorry but i have to agree with sarah! it doenst matter if adam is a “boy between the years” he is physically a GIRL..which in my book and in many others would make Fiona a lesbian or bisexual. I mean no disrespect, Adam is by far one of the best characters in Degrassi History.
sorry i mean “ears” not years
That’s how I look at. I’m sorry if anyone disagrees or if “technically …..” I don’t care that’s just how I see it. But Fiona wouldn’t be a lesbian, she has shown interest in guys before.
@Sarah Yeah, that’s not how it works. It’s not just that Adam says he’s a boy, he really IS a boy.
But alternately, while that makes HIM straight, were Fiona to hook up with him, her sexuality would be more up in the air. But sexuality is such a fluid thing anyway, and there are so many levels of bisexuality to fill in all the bits between ONLY attracted to the opposite gender and ONLY attracted to the same gender, it’s something I’d be really interested to see Degrassi tackle.
I completely agree with you on that. Adam IS a boy but say for some reason he wanted to be a girl again (I know, unrealistic but..)then he could go back to being Gracie and dating guys. If Gracie were to date Fiona that would make her a lesbian? Gracie/Adam are the same person. If Adam and Fiona were to get intimate it would be physically a same sex relationship.
@Sarah and others…
So, our bodies are the only thing that define our gender? Let’s say a man has to have his private parts amputated because of cancer… does that make him a woman? Or what about a woman who undergoes a masectomy? Does she become a man? No, and no. Gender is a spectrum, not a male/female binary, and it’s much more complex than what’s in our underwear. A transgendered person is basically a regular man or a regular woman with a severe hormone imbalance and certain physical defects.
And even if you disagree with me, please be aware that the respectful way to refer to a trans person is with the gender they identify as. For someone like Adam, the implication that he is “actually” a lesbian would be very insulting/hurtful. The character identifies as a straight male so that’s how we should think of him, and since he’s a straight guy, his relationship would be straight.
I hate how people think Clare is changing just to please Eli, I think it’s way deeper than that. Her family issues and her parents being way too concerned about themselves to even give a crap about her. I think she’s just been feeling like a wall since all they do is fight in front of her and not even care. That’s what I get from it. Hopefully it is because of her problems at home and not because of Eli. And it makes me giggle because in the promos I have now gotten the feeling that Eli wouldn’t be opposed to having sex with Clare (I think the way she’s acting in the promos Eli at first might find it cute and a turn-on) but later on I think he realizes she’s not in the right state of mind.
And can I say I just love the facial expression Adam makes when he sees Fiona walk in (she looks like a complete doll by the way) I love it! lol Jordan really knows how to make man-like expressions sometimes. I’m excited about this triangle and see how it goes.. However I will not like if Fiona ends up with Drew. Drew does not deserve any girl right now, especially Fiona who has a lot of extra emotional baggage.
And the Anya and Wesley thing, I’m supppppper excited for that. LOLOLOL I think by the end of the date Wesley will pee his pants.
And the premiere episode was good. The Bianca/Alli smackdown was dope. LOL I couldn’t stop laughing…
Did anyone else start laughing when chantay said :have i ever been wrong” when she was done talking to jenna in that one scene
yes! i was like, “dude, i can list so many times . . . ”
but i did like how chantay was the only one who wasnt a hypocrite (or reverse hypocrite, kinda) about pregnancy. cause when anya was pregnant she and sav were acting like it would totally ruin their lives and i was like, “guys, remember how you used to be BEST FRIENDS with mia?!”
Remember Teen Sizzle ;)?
sizzle teen
god damn, if eli has a bunch of pictures of julia in his room i fucking swear the writers will have to hide their kids, hide their wives, etc etc..
and i LMAO’d when jenna got voted off NTS /haha, no more singing for you bitch, now kieta el stupido elephante.
hey guys im back!! this episode was an epic way to start this half of the season!!! o and the reason i have a diff icon now is bcuz i accidently backspaced my email address so when i retyped it in it gave me a new icon but its me :)
no1curr
rude much dont worry i care :)
@jhon i’m not being rude. that person’s comment is just insignificant.
you could’ve just said that doesnt have anything to do with degassi
@jhon i could have, but i didn’t, so? tbh, it’s much more fun to be a complete bitch.
…. man and i was the 1 who said u had the shit when u posted episode descriptions…
and by the way the only reason i felt the need to say that was becuz i wanted ppl like jhon who thought my name was funny to not think it was someone stealing the name and taking credit from me. and if u really didnt care why the hell wud u take the time to say that?? u no theres more productive things to do in life then to sit there and fine someone to hurt their feelings mmkay?
@iwishnobodyeverdiscoveredjustinbieber lmfao. get yo 12 year old ass in school, and learn not to be so damn sensitive :)
well at least i go to school and know the proper way to talk and you know what bitch when someone like you who has to be a bitch about things that can simply be left alone i don’t take that shit so there you go
@iwishnobodyeverdiscoveredjustinbieber you don’t take shit? then climb through your computer screen and beat the crap out of me. go ahead.
o and thanks jhon! ur the bomb :)
ummm i didnt mean like that dumbass i ment that when somebody is rude to me u better believe i dont walk away without giving them a response
jhon was riding your dick because i said something mean to you. but okay, since you two are such little bffs. have fun.
and LMAO all the replies you’ve given me. i’m a troll, dumbass. you’re so naive it’s cute.
just shut up idonthaveaname im with jhon and iwishnobodyeverdiscoveredjustinbieber why did u have to be so rude in the begining??
lmao
i care and i still love your username!!
Speaking of Jenna, I do not believe we’ve seen her mother make an appearance. With that in mind, I was watching that female paramedic in the burger king commercial and she looks like someone that can be her mom.
we havent seen jenna’s mom cause she left jenna however long ago, remember? i dont expect we’ll ever see her :(
jenna and her mom can besame el culo.
hoy nena, esa boca! :/
@Galbert-Kun lol
First I want to say that these where very good opening episodes. Very excited for next weeks episode, seems that it will be packed with exciting scenes.
I know some people are upset that its pretty much looking that Clare would loose her virginity, I know a lot of people look up to her as a role model. (And Believe me, I am a strong believer that teenagers should not be having sex at all, but if you are thats your choice, no one elses)
But aren’t we forgeting what show we are watching? This is Degrassi, umm..it kinda goes there. The Drama of the show is what keeps it going. Clare’s character could only pull of being the good girl for so long, what better drama is there but to have her rebel. And by the looks of the promos, she is doing a good job of it.
Degrassi doesn’t show you what you should do, but what you shouldn’t do. Everytime the character goes through something, they mostly always have a moment of enlightenment or reflection where they realize the errors of their ways.
perosnally, i would find it more realistic if clare was sexually active. THats jsut how it is now a days!! alomst every single high schooler is or has been sexual before. I mean come on its highschool! dont you guys remember how it was like?
Agreed :)
Amen.
Im sorry but I am in Highschool I am 17 and a virgin and I know plenty of people who have not had sex. I think to make that kind of statment is ignorant. Degrassi may have had a few characters leave as virgins but I for one think it would be nice to see a person who wants to abstain actually stay true to it. I think it would be nice to see Eli not take advantage of Clare acting out and help her stay true to her beliefs. And if Degrassi “Goes there” they should have a story line where a girl struggles against societys “norms” and completely abstains.
You dont need to have a couple have sex to make their storyline an intersting one.
Yea, not everyone in high school is sexual, I wasn’t and so wheren’t most of my friends. Mind you, after high school things changed, but I still have quite a few friends who aren’t sexually active, including myself. Its a choice. And I agree that they shouldn’t use sex to make a couple interesting. There have been loads of couples in Degrassi who didn’t have sex.
But I think Clare is a special case, the whole basis of her character is the fact the she is the “good girl” the “non-conformist”. She grew up believing everything her parents told her to. And now that the very foundation is crumbling, of course she is going to question everything she has known to be true. She is only 15 and even Clare can’t escape teenage hormones. So she is going to deal with her parents the only way a 15 year old would know how…by doing the exact oposite that they want you to do. She is not doing it because of Eli, she is doing it to piss off her parents. It looks like Eli knows this and by the look of the promos he rejects her offer.
But after Clare decides for herself who she really is and what she truly believes in, maybe she decides that its something she really wants to do. Or maybe her and Eli break up before their relationship gets there.
The writers have always put a focus on Clare’s sainty reputation, so its no surprise that it would be an issue at one point. I personally like the route the writers are going with Clare. The conflicts that Clare has had to face with aren’t surperficial, and I feel that the writers have tried to go deeper then the usual high school issues.
I think it will be very impowering that we see a Clare take the choice and do what she feels is the right thing to do. She may choose to do it, she may not.
Hello, i’m from Poland and I have a huge request for you. Could someone make English subtitles for the season 9 and 10? Even one at a time. In Poland stop airing Degrassi at season 8 and we will paddle our own canoe. Unfortunately, it is difficult to translate by ear. Very, very please people who will have free time and are willing to help to contact me at email paulina.1992@poczta.onet.pl Thank You! :)
I think the person coming back is Johnny. :) They brought up the whole sexting and STI thing with Alli in the last episode which I think was foreshadowing. Plus, Melinda said in an interview “Alli has had a couple of serious relationships [before]… so maybe we touch base on people from Alli’s past!”
*Totally random and OT but as I’m sitting outside typing this.. some guy walks by and says “So, it’s against the law to like two girls and have sex with them?” Wth.*
Is it just me or is teennick acting like Gigantic iss wAy more important than degrassi? I mean, their website is ALL Gigantic, like that show is more beloved than Degrassi. Gigantics a good show. I just don’t like that they’re dooin that.
Gigantic is their new show. I didn’t watch it, it looked very stupid and uninteresting for me but they are trying to promote it. Degrassi was pretty much all they had until now, if Gigantic even makes it far. Degrassi (TNG and BP has been on for like 10 years) TeenNick’s website was ALL Degrassi for a while. You can’t expect it to be all Degrassi forever. If they wanted their channel to be just all about Degrassi they wouldn’t call it TeenNick they would call it the Degrassi channel lol. But the main reasoning is that Gigantic is new.
I’d gladly watch the “Degrassi Channel.” Degrassi: All day and all night!
i know..i wnet to teennick.com a few days ago and my God did i get pissed..wtf is stupid gigantic doing trying to replace Degrassi? i give it at least 2 seasons to last!
DEGRASSI FOR EVER <3
dude it’s monday, where is this review you promised on saturday?
Dude, chill. I’ve been out of town the entire weekend. Plans change…and I didn’t promise anything.
Anya doesnt actually go to the date in a bikini its definitely wesley fantasizing cus when she says “ohhh” shes wearing earrings and when shes in the bikini she isnt wearing them so its probably a fantasy
Yes I’m well aware my review is way later than I wanted it to be….I was out of town and supposed to be back Saturday, but ended up staying through the entire weekend. It’s kind of hard to do anything when you’re out of town for several days and are nowhere near a computer.
Anyway…if you need to know quickly I thought it was a “B” episode (if you absolutely loved this episode don’t freak out, a B is in no way a bad grade). I also have brief thoughts about the new opening sequence and even more brief thoughts about Gigantic, but I’ll talk about those later.
Nuuuu i wanted A+ *or at least a B+* :( This episode was so great(well written/strong acting/the revival of a Alli we all love) and a exciting way to kick off season 10 part 2 :D. But I can’t wait to see why you decided on a B, there must be a good reason.
Oh and Jenna’s plot was amazing too and so was Jessica Tyler’s acting.
Ok so I’m not trying to be mean but I just don’t understand. You thought the episode was so great that it was an A+ so why can’t it be? Just because Kary rated it a B doesn’t mean that the episode is rated a B for everyone. Besides the fact that ratings don’t really mean anything(an episode could get an A or an F and still not effect the episode depending on how much YOU liked it), it’s just Kary’s opinion. Don’t get me wrong I respect his opinion but he could have rated this anything that he wanted, even an F. Everyone is going to view an episode differently, so if someone didn’t like or did like an episode more or less then you did, it doesn’t make a difference for you.
PERSONALLY Kary’s reviews help a lot because sometime I go back to a episode and I see why he disliked it and then It’s the same reasons why I dislike it. If the world worked like your saying I think everyone would make their own degrassi blog and leave here XD. Everyone on some level thinks Kary knows what he’s talking about so we take his opinion into (moderate – high) consideration on how much we like it as well.
Noo not really, not every Degrassi fan who really likes/dislikes an episode wants to make their own blog to discuss their opinions… But anyway if you had an opinion about an episode why should you change it based on what Kary said, it’s your opinion not his. I know that it can change at any time though but that would be like letting his opinion influence/change yours. Like I said I respect his opinion and I like to see what he says about them as well. The main reason I’m bringing this up is because when Kary said the episode was a B you said “i wanted A+ or at least a B+”. You’re not necessarily saying that you thought the episode was an A+ or B+ it sounds more that you thought Kary or everyone else should have rated it an A+.
so, kary, should we expect the full review today, or not until tomorrow?
glad you’re back. i was starting to worry that you’d been eaten by a rabid leprechaun or something :)
It’ll be up tonight. I’m at work right now (booooo for working on a holiday), but my entire evening is dedicated to being on the computer and watching MNF
it sucks. im from penslyvania and we didnt have school on colombus day but in hot sweaty florida we do blek
AHHH! it was such an amazing episode!
Alli’s storyline was great and Melinda Shankar’s acting was phenomenal.
However, I preferred Jenna’s storyline for this episode. I’m not really sure why. I think Sam Earle is an amazing actor and I always look foward to seeing him perform. I am incredibly curious as to what is going to happen with Jenna and K.C. and what he is going to do after the baby is born.
We all know very well that this is not the end of Alli in Degrassi and that she is going to come back soon.
The new promo looks AMAZING! I’m sooo excited.
Thanks for the slomo:)
XD Some of those subtitles are really funny.
Jenna sounds really creepy at 2:04.
Awesome! I like how in the slomo you can totally see that Jenna’s kissing Sav, but he’s not kissing her back. More respect for Sav.
i didnt see fitzy boy in the credits damn! i wanted him to be a regular this time o well cud have been worse he couldnt have been in this half at all
According to Stohn Fitz is a regular now. He just couldn’t make it the day that they were shooting the new scenes for the credits.
Stephen said that he was out of the country, so he wasn’t able to be there when they filmed the scenes. But I believe they had originally intended him to be.
YAy! more fitz
i give this episode a A- it was excellent! but not perfect
and yay!! he is a regular why cant they edit him in real quick tho??
not trying to but in but damn idonthaveaname u no this really cud have been left alone if u didnt have to be so rude in the first place like why did u feel the need to write i dont care?? come on now
the attention you people are giving me is hilarious. i am the #1 hater on here. always.
well im lmao at u becuz ive seen grilled cheese sandwhiches that r better trolls then u
i mean seriously dude ur so naive its cute?? no1curr?? if ur the number 1 hater u clearly have not seen some of the conversations in other places on the web
‘well im lmao at u becuz ive seen grilled cheese sandwhiches that r better trolls then u’
LOL WOW UR KEWL!!11
grilled cheese sandwiches? seriously? read a book bitch.
‘if ur the number 1 hater u clearly have not seen some of the conversations in other places on the web’
other places of the web? come closer and tell me moar.
i no my comment was funny wasnt it?? o gosh i get myself sometimes
bahahah lmfao! spongeboberella the grilled cheese sandwhich comment was a classic o gosh ur like my hero that was great lol
oh
snap
you’ve totally got me. your sarcasm hurts like hell, i’m sorta dying inside
DON’T YOU MEAN GRILLED CHEESUS
@disastuh lmao haha
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porcelina is the hbic
OMG
i seriously hope that holly j and declan get together. i want this plot where holly j is sittnig or doing whtatever with sav and he comes, pulls her away, and kisses her and thye 69696969696969696969699669
but anyway enough of that so anyone no when fitz makes his entrance into this part of the season???
at spongeboberella idk but i have a feeling his arrival will soon revolve around clare afterwards well at least i hope a clare and fitz storyline wud be beyond epic
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if you grew a brain and did that it wud be beyond epic.
stfu u worthless piece of shit u no at least ppl like iwishnobodyeverdiscoveredjustinbieber and amber and jhon all have lives becuz they’ve stop commenting and have probably gone to do something actually worth living for, u on the other hand u must live in a cardboard box on the side of the road and have spent all ur money on a computer just to do this bullshit. go tip a cow dickwad
babybabe LMAO i think that’s the funniest comment i’ve ever gotten on here.
..god, what an ignorant little dipshit, you are.
omfg thats all u use is lmao dont u have an actual comeback u fucking troll?? come on im waiting cuz i wud expect worse from the number 1 hater
babybabe lol your head is seriously stuck pretty far up your ass because that is not the only shit i say to you. you should stop getting so butthurt over the littlest shit. fucking cunt.
u no dude u’ve said it like 6 times already but just to show u how much of a bigger person i am then u im going to stop trying to fight u becuz a peice of shit like u is not worth it and 1 day when ur little computer in ur cardboard box breaks and u cant fix it u cant be a dickwad to anyone anymore so yea im not going to respond back to whatever comment u post to me but i cant wait to laff at it :) so ty cuz i love to laff
can u just answer a question for me idonthaveaname if someone was rude to u on here wud u take that?? and im not trying to make it sound like a mean comment or start anything i just truthfully wanna know lol but plz dont think im trying to start anything :)
@babybabe LOL GUURL/GUY/HESHE/WUTEVER i have NOT said that 6 times, link me to all the times i have said that. although, ‘dipshit’ is my word, deal with it.
lmao @ the ‘bigger person’ shit, did your mommy tell you to say that?
@my kitty mitty :) if you people think saying ‘no1curr’ is rude, you need to get out more. if someone were a complete bitch to me on her, i’d want to be their best friend tbh. actually, i’d ask them if they would want to fuck me. yeah.
Wow idonthaveaname really? When someone is rude for no reason i`ll speak up and love your username that kid is so over rated.
lol k, i’ve been waiting to see if i’d ever get banned from commenting here. i’d laugh my ass off.
Btw phone doesn’t show reply button so I have to start at the bottom.
Well so am i idonthaveaname
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dude..i fucking love you!! you’re hillarious! you always make my day!! Fuck, these bitches come here talking shit to you like they own this place.
@Merari are you being serious? i can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.
Babybabe, I fucking hate the way you say laugh. Laff. Really? And I love idonthaveaname:) she’s a bitch <3 <3
@idonthaveaname:)
im being fucking serious! i swear!
lol! @austin u r so fuckin stupid u prick i bet u couldnt even come up with a good comeback to save ur life just becuz ur jelous of how good i am at coming back dosent mean u have to try and insult me in anyway possible well if it makes u feel better i’ll tell u im desperatly hurt ok poor baby :( i no its been a while and were already almost to umbrella pt 2 but ive been away for a while and thought it wud be funny to check and see if i saw anyone leave more pointless comments towards me. so ty cuz its been a pleasure telling u how much a dick u are :) and if u wanna get back to me then lets dance u little fuck cuz ill tell u it wud be pretty fun :)
just leave it alone jhon he or she is not worth it dont worry kary will banned him or her soon so she or he can laff his ass off as long as he wants then we can finally get back to discussing degrassi lets see idonthaveaname’s brilliant comment towards this since hes such a great troll im sure he’ll tell me to go fuck off or something
trolls don’t blatantly tell people to fuck off…they just enjoy the attention you give them. Personally I’m on Idonthaveaname’s side because it IS hilarious watching everyone take him seriously.
@NerdGuy finally someone gets it. but i’m a HER.
@babybabe tu eres muy gordo, tu eres muy feo. besa mi culo, puto
:)
LMFAO @ “Those tears = Character Development” And Kary being a PIMP getting all the girls by boring them to death with bad Teen Nick shows(aka Gigantic) ROFL JK
But seriously Gigantic I thought was interesting but it was odd how they just threw you into the show with a explaination how they got there. This was more of a Season 2 opening if there was a Season 1.
A similar thing was done with this Kids show that premiered today (zevo-3 with the sketchers superheros lol) it made no real sense because they didn’t explain how the characters became superheroes and now out of nowhere action and plot is developing with no explanation(i doubt anyone here watched it tho lol)
I wanan know that song for the newest episode promo TT__TT
The song in the new promo is So Easy by Gina Cutillo.
Thanks 4 dah review althouqh I still think ihtss a A- ep.
I LOVE U KARY!!! I so agree with your review AND your review about GIGANTIC..this show SUCKS!!! Teen Nick aka The N hasn’t had a hit since SOUTH OF NOWHERE and THE BEST YEARS both shows I wish they’d re-air more often!! They need to save the just cancelled HUGE from ABC Family or build another show. WAKE UP NICK!!
huge is cancled i saw it on the ABC family website
I agree with your review pretty good episode
Would Senna (Sav and Jenna) make a good couple if Jenna was not pregnant?
/brainstorming a possible Senna fanfic
Nah.I dont think Senna would make ah qood couple if Jenna wasn’t pregnant because there just two people that cannot be together.It’s like putting chantay with Wesley.
I see; however, I’m becoming increasingly inspired to write the fic, so make sure you (and the rest of the Senna fans) review it :)
Boo Gigantic… HOORAY THE NIGHTLIFE!
the nihgtlife sucks balls!
i actually thouht gigantic was better than the nightlife..maybe it was becuase i only say like ten minutes of gigantic
I stopped watching after “vegimite vitches” … you watched longer? Damn
LOL!!
okay i thought that ali’s plot deserved a lot more than a b+, i think degrassi delivered a good hook and sinker with ali”s development, and we’ll definately be watching more! I also would like to thank teen nick for not overdoing the promos for this. because when they did for the boiling point, you expected a BAM but what happened? I think that laying degrassi low for a while was a good set up for the shocking end. I think since the boiling point, everyone became a better actor. except riley, i still hate his character. anywho! I was also glad that they didnt jam pack the premire with every single major event occuring. I think they planned these out well. I’m pretty excited for clare and eli’s plot, I think clare should go against her cristian ways with this new persona change, either by choice or like her sister did( a good plot although darcy’s situation was tragic.) i cant wait for next weeks episode!!! follow my twitter?
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Yea well actually I was the one who said that Peter was a way bigger character then Chantay. If you actually read all the comments you would have seen that I was replying to someones comment who said that “Peter was probably still going to be on the show but they took him out of the credits bc he’s not a main character but Chantay and Leia are exceptions”. Meaning that if Peter was still going to be in episodes they wouldn’t have taken him out of the credits because overall he’s a much much bigger character. But in my opinion, (even though I was talking about something different) I still disagree. I’m sure 90% of people would rather see Peter (a character who has a huge past) working at the dot rather then Chantay (who has been here almost as long but has no past) walking by Alli in the hallways saying thanks for the uniforms. Chantay may be in the credits but she is still just a filler character. They only use her when they need a character to fill in as a side character or just walk by and say something.
Um, Chantay was actually on Degrassi longer than Peter, despite her always being a recurring character. Season 4, hello? Peter arrived in Season 5.
You’re right.. I forgot about that time when Chantay sat at the lunch table with Manny. That has got to be my favorite scene with her in it!
I can name several other occasions where she showed up in Season 4. The episode where Emma decides to hang out with the girls and Chester decided to pick on them. She’s there along with Darcy and Manny. The episode where the cheerleaders drop Paige causing her to break her leg. Those are two at the top of my head.
I hope Clareli makes it D:
if they don’t i’ll cut someone
yay for finding out the song…So Easy by Gina Cutillo. but can anyone find the lyrics? thanks.
so any new spoilers for love lockdown??? anyone?? were getting closer to it so more leaks shud be out soon! :)
More leaks of what? Promos and promo pictures aren’t leaks and they stopped the episodes from leaking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An-ZSdsPqMw&feature=player_embedded guys here’s the link for a better quality video of eli’s bad boy badass promo or whatever lol i hope this works cuz this is my first time trying to give a link so i apologize if it dosent work :)
lol o and by the way was i the only one who notice how weird the narrorator says degrassi at the end???
ok guys i no i look like the biggest nerd rite now with like 4 comments in a row already but i just got a good THOUGHT not a spoiler i repeat THOUGHT what if the reason eli is freakin out at his locker is because he just found out clare and adam maybe went into a personal room in his house. cuz in that promo it shows clare opening a lock with adam and im pretty sure its in eli’s house although im not positive becuz u no how degrassi is with there promos they screw us all up but he looked pretty furious at his locker and it looked like he pushed her away now im sure he didnt mean much by it it was probably just a stuck in the moment thing
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i think he’s mental.
and he didn’t push her away at his locker, it made it look like he did but his hand just got really close to her face and it startled her so she jumped away.
lol did u make that little moving picture thing??
lol yes i did
that doesn’t explain why he is digging through the recycling bin…
So guys, Which one is worse: The Nightlife or Gigantic?
Don’t Pick neither lol
THE NIGHTLIFE! I like Gigantic. The nightlife is crap,I only .watched it for Declan and all he talked about was how Holly J’s middle name was jeanette (which we all knew from love games). I cant stand the channel overall though. Nick cannon couldnt be more unfunny if he tried.
i hate both of those shows lol gigantic was just a waste of money they need to find more phenomanol things to do with degrassi cuz everybody is so obsessed with it now to the point where they literally watch it 24/7 o.O
lmao well neither is the truth
lmao well neither of them r good like when i honestly try to decide which 1 is worse there literally both at the same amount the nightlife was just a poor excuse for them to put something else on other then degrassi in the summer cuz it came on 4 nights a week lol! and then gigantic is just plain straight up bullshit :) so there u go lol
srry i didnt mean to post that comment above the 1 i just wrote
BTW i think Adam and Fiona will become the new Paige and Alex. Im sure they will start dating,EVERYONE wants it to happen. Im just hoping Adam is hoenst that he is biologically female and doesnt lie to her about it.
Anyone notice that the papers Eli crazily picks up in one of the promos is sheet music? I didn’t really get that.. does he even play an instrument?
At the end of the episode with Eli, Adam and Sav, when Sav steals his dad’s car to go to the concert, I think Eli and Adam ask if Sav wants to “jam” with them sometime…I’m not really sure if there are only specific kinds of musical instruments involved in jamming. XD I’m assuming guitars and drums and stuff? But I don’t know much about instruments anyway.
very good observation! i predict he plays the drums since he was messing around with drum sticks in the car on the way back from the concert
lmfao!! i luv ur name i think its really funny for some reason
omg friday can not get here fast enough it sux that we have to wait a week now to see each episode
I take it you didn’t watch the other 9 seasons?
just wait and see if Teennick gets on their “usual” schedule of taking whole MONTHS off after showing like 6 episodes.
lakehurst i ment that im so used to seeing it 4 days a week that im not used to having to wait a week at a time anymore of course i’ve seen the other 9 seasons im a degrassi fanatic!! and trust im prepared to wait those MONTHS
That’s weird. Your complaining about waiting a week to see an episode but then you say you are ready to wait months?
matt it was just a caught up in the moment thing i was in a degrassi watching mood and i really didnt feel like waiting at the time so dont go trying to start shit where it dosent belong and to be honest who the fuck wud u even really care about a comment like that?? it had nothing to do with asking about anybodys opinion or thoughts at all
Um simply because your one of those obnoxious people who took The Boiling Point for granted and now have to complain about having to wait a week like which we’ve always had to wait (it’s the same for pretty much every show). Then you reply by saying “trust me” and you’re prepared to wait ‘MONTHS’ for Degrassi. You basically contradicted your original comment. I’m not trying to ‘start shit’ by replying to your comment using common sense.
LOL what i honestly find funny is that fact that u actually care enough to write this bullshit out how does me not being able to wait effect u at all??? thats rite it dosent if u can wait thats great for u and i wasnt even being serious when i said that
Hey guys, I haven’t even joined the comments yet, but I have a few things to say. Okay, haha.
I have a theory that when ALLI COMES BACK FROM THE ALL GIRL PRIVATE SCHOOL, AND IS A LESBIAN..if that happens I will kinda be happy and I’ll be in shock. I mean it’s a great new storyline; plus Degrassi needed a new lesbian storyline, not having one since Season 7 (Palex) but mainly Season 5 .. i need one.
Also, HUNTER stated this above a long time ago, but I want to respond.
Your idea of this is really good; reading yours I got my own idea, and I’ve posted it below. Thanks for your idea!
“DEGRASSI SUMMER IN HAWAII”
(send off of characters: Holly J, Sav, Fiona, Declan, Anya, Riley, Zane, Chantay; Peter) (Guest Apperances: Danny, Liberty, Toby, Manny, Emma, Spinner)
Plots- (4 plot; 2-hr. long movie)
Yes it’s weird we know, so do they…but since graduating year and Peter ready for summer him and Chantay have really become friends, not like they have been before, but ya’ know…Since these new buddies have been hitting it off Peter has purchased them tickets to go to Hawaii. Chantay agrees to go and they are really excited, and not only are they excited they don’t know what awaits them. Watch them visit Hawaii as friends, and leave more than that. Along the way old friends are ran into and the whole experience is really strange, even for them…but why them? Is it just a joke…or is there something to prove?
Back in Toronto, Jenna having the baby girl of her dreams…or not…hasn’t really had time for herself. Missing lots of school to stay home with her baby, and being home schooled for the rest of grade 10 wasn’t really her forte. Jenna is bummed and using the little money left from NEXT TEEN STAR really hasn’t helped much, but she does have Sav. But, when things couldn’t get any worse.. an unexpected knock comes. Guess who? ..KC is at the door, pleading to let him help. Jenna has to make some decisions, and possibly give KC a second chance. And when things get too far and Sav catches her cheating Jenna’s world may not be too easy. Until KC really wants to be her baby daddy.
Graduating is the high school may be exciting..but when Holly J gets her letter from Yale University stating that she didn’t get in makes her feel like a failure in life. Turning to Fiona and Declan for actual money to get in Holly J feels that she’ll have to spend the summer in guilt. Luckily her friends Fiona, Sav, and Anya are there for her right? …wrong. Fiona is back in Manhattan for the summer. Anya is taking some Summer prep courses and Sav is just hanging around NOT talking to Holly J. What should she do? There’s only one thing…stripping. But, will stripping really help her, or will it make her fall behind when she tries to raise money for Yale?
Riley is ready for college and the best thing is that Zane and him have been accepted into the same one! That’s good right? Wrong. Zane and Riley have been going strong, but what will happen when Riley settles into college and starts falling for the “gay” football coach. Riley feels college may be a place of regret and has to make some risky decisions along the way..but with some risky consequences too..
ew. do you actually think people are goning to read this fuckery?
@idonthaveaname:): you just messed with wrong person bitch. :) i didn’t say YOU have to read it…..and i capitalized YOU because you don’t have a name. freak. :)
@Degrassi :)
‘you just messed with wrong person bitch’
lmao wow i’m so scuurd of you..
oh i have a name. and no one on here including YOU will find out what it is, because YOU people are freaks.
Some people may like the idea but personally I don’t. First, I don’t like the idea of Degrassi “goes/takes” anymore. Second, I don’t like how they have to make a special movie just to be the send off for characters. Third, there would be no purpose for any of the old characters to return with a storyline like this. Fourth and most importantly, I would NOT watch a movie that focused on Chantay as the main character. She has never been important in my opinion (which I wouldn’t mind them giving her storylines now at all) but to throw her into a movie as the main character, especially about her and her ‘friendship’ with Peter..? Extra notes: How do Peter and Chantay just ‘run into’ people in Hawaii? Alli is boy crazy, I can’t see her being a lesbian especially since that’s one of her main purposes on the show (but it’s possible since they did that with Paige).
it’s creative but Chantay is not one of my fave people so it just made the movie random.Like when have chantay ever been important
Exactly.It can not qet any slower then dis.
TV GUIDE description of Umbrella p1
Clare feels lost as her family falls apart, but Eli’s family makes her an odd offer.
it’s basically the same, just worded a little different.
O SHIT I CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT THAT OFFER IS!!!! lol sorry for caps really excited
i think they’ll ask her to move in. i hope.
im thinking the same idonthaveaname but all my predictions seem to be wrong so i hope this will be the first right 1!!!
i saw someone say that Clare’s “family talk” is scheduled on the same day as her actual first date with Eli, so she decides to skip that talk and go rebelling or something.
This should be interesting. =]
Remember when Peter was smart and villainous?
The writers don’t either.
I completely agree with kary about gigantic and I feel that gigantic is using gossip girl’s success to make their own show appealing. The first time I saw the promo it felt like the writers based the characters of the show off of gossip girl, i give credit to the actors and actresses, but i find it unoriginal in every way. For example, anna is trying to be serena, vanessa is trying to be blair,etc. Instead of taking ideas from other shows,they should have been original.
Degrassi will always be the best show on teennick! Me Love Degrassi!
I totally agree.
I don’t want Eli and Claire to be another Peter Darcy like where the chritian girl has a bad thing happen to her and she goes crazy and starts loosin her mind over a boy. Look what happened to her sister!!! Probably banging on African bongos and rain dancing as we speak!!!! And Pete ris a waiter in the dot so after all that shit look what happened.
Degrassi is the greatest show on Teen Nick hands down. I tried to watch “Gigantic” and couldn’t it was so boring. smh
Anyone else just like “FINALLY!!!!” that we know K.C.’s name now??? Now just what’s his middle name?
Alli’s story was A+ in my book. Jenna was C+ at best.
DEF THE BEST EPISODE OF THE WHOLE SEASON!!!!!! :)